Windows 8 Tip: Create Setup Media After Using the Web Installer

Don't worry if you didn't do this during Setup: You can do it later

I’ve advocated using the Windows 8 web installer because it’s the simplest and safest way to upgrade an existing PC to Windows 8. But if you didn’t create Setup media using the web installer, you may be concerned about what happens if you need to start over again from scratch in the future. No worries: You will be able to install Windows 8 later if need be.

Be sure to read Windows 8 Feature Focus: Web-Based Setup for more information about this new Windows 8 installation option.

To be clear, most Windows 8 reinstalls can be accomplished quickly and easily with Push Button Reset, which provides quick PC Reset and RC Refresh functionality. But many readers have expressed concern about what happens if they simply want or need to reinstall from scratch. There are a number of approaches to Windows 8 disaster recovery—the old Windows 7-era image-based backup infrastructure is still there, for example—but the point is certainly valid: If you used the web-based installer, and did not create Setup media as part of the process, it’s unclear how you can go back and do so after the fact.

Thanks to a little digging by my Windows 8 Secrets co-author Rafael Rivera, I’m pleased to report that you can indeed create Windows 8 Setup media—a bootable Windows 8 Setup DVD or USB-based disk—after you’ve already upgraded to (or otherwise installed) Windows 8 using the web-based installer. (You can also do this from Windows XP, Vista, or 7.)

It’s simple: Just visit the How to upgrade to Windows 8 with only a product key page on the new Windows web site and pretend that you’re going to install Windows 8. You can do this from any PC (running Windows, obviously).

The Install Windows 8 button triggers a software download that’s similar to—because it’s a stripped down version of—the normal web-based installer. In the first phase of this wizard-based application, you must enter a valid Windows 8 product key, which you have because Microsoft mailed you one when you first used the web-based installer.

After you enter the key and the application verifies that it’s OK, just step through the wizard. The only downside to this process is that you must download the Windows 8 Setup files, which can take several minutes or more, depending on your connection. But you will eventually reach the stage where it asks you to choose between the following three choices.

Choose Install by creating media.

Then, as with the normal web-based installer, you can choose to create a USB flash drive-based Setup disk or write it to an ISO file that you can save to your hard drive. That ISO file can be turned into a DVD-based Setup disc or, using the Windows 7 USB/DVD download tool, a USB flash drive-based Setup disk. Since the latter choice, for the ISO file, works both ways, I recommend that option. But either way you’ve acquired your Setup media. You can cancel the wizard after you have the ISO file (or have created the USB flash drive Setup disk).

Mission accomplished.

Discuss this Article 22

Cubkyle
on Dec 4, 2012

Nice tip. Do you know, off the top of your head, whether or not this also works with OEM keys (computers with Windows 8 pre-installed)?

pthurrott
on Dec 4, 2012

I doubt it, but have not tried that.

rbwatson0
on Dec 4, 2012

"—the old Windows 7-era image-based backup infrastructure is still there, for example—"
Where is it? Everything I've read says that Microsoft dumped this. I cannot find it in Windows 8 anywhere.

pthurrott
on Dec 4, 2012

Use Start Search to search for "Windows 7". It comes up under Settings as Windows 7 Recovery.

davepbell
on Dec 4, 2012

Do you get to pick 32bit or 64bit?

pthurrott
on Dec 4, 2012

No.

Pitta
on Dec 4, 2012

No - so does this mean its 36 or 64 bit ONLY, or that it's both and you get to choose?

pthurrott
on Dec 4, 2012

No, "no" means you don't get a choice. If you do this on a 32-bit version of Windows Vista, 7, or 8, you get a 32-bit version of Windows 8. If you do it on a 64-bit version, you get 64-bit.

Waethorn
on Dec 4, 2012

Just FYI: OEM setup media seems to work with upgrade keys, so long as your old OS is still on the drive when Windows Setup starts. When you get to the partition screen, hit Shift-F10 to open a command-prompt, run diskpart, and clean your disk before proceeding to get a nice clean install.

Every time I've done it this way, Windows would still activate just fine. The only time I ran into a problem is when I wiped the drive in Windows PE, then rebooted, THEN tried to install. I had to do an in-place upgrade (install Windows from within Windows) to get it to activate properly.

roncerr
on Dec 4, 2012

"... OEM setup media seems to work with upgrade keys, so long as your old OS is still on the drive..." So, does that mean if you have to replace the hard drive after doing it that way, that you must always reinstall the OEM version, like Sony's XP, before using an upgrade key and media to reinstall Windows 8?

Waethorn
on Dec 4, 2012

What?! No! You can always install a clean trial (skip the product key entry), then just do an in-place upgrade over top by relaunching Windows Setup from within your trial copy of Windows and specifying your upgrade key there. I must remind the readers that just because you CAN do this, doesn't mean you are always legally entitled to. If your computer came with a previous copy of Windows that is entitled for an upgrade, you can legally do a clean install of Windows on that PC. If it's a PC that didn't come with one (like a new PC that you built yourself), you could TECHNICALLY install an upgrade version this way, but you aren't legally entitled to. A product key does not automatically give you an unlimited license. Your license dictates what you can and can't do with the software.

If you know what you're doing with Windows PE and the ADK, you can set up your own recovery partition too. Microsoft has some decent scripts to help with those, but only advanced users need apply. The scripts still need a bit of work though.

Just FYI: I actually mean "System Builder" software, not real OEM software. OEM software is what the major manufacturers get, and it requires a new activation method where the product key is embedded in the UEFI firmware. You can't use that software for anything other than the computer it comes with. System Builder software is what smaller custom PC shops use and it uses standard activation with product keys. So far, it looks like that media is not locked to non-upgrade keys. That may change in the future though.

roncerr
on Dec 5, 2012

So I have a new blank hard drive installed and have purchased a $40 upgrade disk ISO (or a $70 physical disk) from Microsoft. I boot to the install disk and install it as a trial (w/o activating). That is what you meant by "old OS" in your original statement. Then I start over (optionally after the trial period) booting to the same disk again, checking the option to save nothing, and install Windows 8 all over again, only this time I don't skip over the part about entering the product key. The upgrade disk is good for either 32-bit or 64-bit PCs. Alternatively, if I want to avoid the double install, I would have to purchase a separate 32-bit or 64-bit System Builder disk from Newegg for $140, which comes with a separate product key, and install that to a blank hard drive only once, but I can postpone adding the product key (activating) until the end of the trial period. So I either need to pay $40 or $70 to Microsoft and install twice, or pay $140 to Newegg and install once. Correct?

Waethorn
on Dec 7, 2012

"So I have a new blank hard drive installed and have purchased a $40 upgrade disk ISO (or a $70 physical disk) from Microsoft. I boot to the install disk and install it as a trial (w/o activating). That is what you meant by "old OS" in your original statement."

That part is right - except that you still need to have activated a previous OS license on the PC to qualify for an upgrade. If you are talking about replacing an old hard drive with a new one, that is The motherboard is what counts as the "PC".

"Then I start over (optionally after the trial period) booting to the same disk again"

No. You launch Windows Setup off the disc from within your existing trial copy.

"install Windows 8 all over again, only this time I don't skip over the part about entering the product key"

Yes. When Windows Setup launches and asks for your upgrade product key, you need to enter it.

"So I either need to pay $40 or $70 to Microsoft and install twice,"

Yes, but see the upgrade compliance requirement as stated above.

"or pay $140 to Newegg and install once."

If you are building your own machine and haven't already bought a full OS license for it before, then this is what is required.

Also...Microsoft even says that beta testers that had the preview versions qualify for an upgrade.

Doraemon
on Dec 11, 2012

I'm the one who bought a PC with Windows 8 Pro OEM preinstalled (Alienware X51) I regret everyday.

Now I want to replace original 1TB HDD with a new 256 Gb SSD, and do a clean install on the SSD, but I don't have any setup media (the computer did not bring any). Recovery media also don´t work because the SSD is too small, web install also don't work because my key is OEM.

My only hope is WAIK (or WADK as they call it know) but it's too dificult to me, there is not any easy way to get a windows 8 pro setup disk ?

whiplash55
on Dec 4, 2012

Thanks Paul, this is exactly what I need. Just after installing the upgrade I started having hard drive issues. While the partition is usable it could go at any time. My data is backed up so I just have to go through the process of reinstalling Windows 7 and redoing the upgrade.
Thanks again!

davewilk
on Dec 4, 2012

In my experience, you can download on a different computer from the one where you want to install, but

1. To get the 32-bit version, you must download on a 32-bit machine, and to get the 64-bit version, you must download on a 64-bit machine.

2. Although you can upgrade an XP machine, you cannot create the media using it, because the 'Install by Creating Media' option is not present. This is apparently because Microsoft believes that XP does not understand .iso files :-).

Roger Andre
on Dec 4, 2012

Some good news here. I had a laptop with in 8 32 running and after pushing the thing and experimenting it started to hang blah blah......any way PC refresh would also hang along with everything else to do with explorer. Oh yes, the good news? I had the setup files on a USB drive, started set up. chose 'repair your computer' and all the refresh options were there, no key required.

bricko
on Dec 4, 2012

I have already bought the Disc version of Win8 Pro...does it work pretty much the same for install. Im waiting now for my new Dell 23 inch Touch that is being assembled now.

Thanks

pmbAustin
on Dec 5, 2012

Suggestion for next article: How to re-snapshot your system (with installed desktop applications) so that refresh/restore doesn't require you to re-install al your desktop applications and reconfigure everything.

bbingay
on Dec 12, 2012

Great tip, I was looking for a way to do this. I heard you mention this on Windows Weekly. I now have a Windows 8 install on my USB drive. Thanks for the information and keep up the good work.

blueridgepro
on Feb 9, 2013

Didn't work for me. I got to the "install windows 8" step and only had two options: install now or install later from the desktop.

I upgraded a system last month, only to have the motherboard die. Now I'm trying to reinstall win 8 on the replacement. I have the product key - just can get a bootable install ISO.

Cyclone
on Feb 23, 2013

I have a PC running XP with SP3 and purchased the Windows 8 Pro upgrade, received my product key via email and proceeded to download 8 on the understanding that I could create an iso to burn to dvd for later installation, as not yet ready to install 8, and for future use when a new install is required.

However, after download completes I am not given the option to create media, only options I have is Install now or Install Later From Desktop.

I downloaded 8 again but with same result so I did a new, fresh install of my XP, and did the 8 download again thinking that maybe something in the XP program was stopping me from the Create Media option but still I do not get the Create Media Option with the new XP install.

Where am I going wrong or what can I do to get the Create Media Option?

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