Windows 8 Tip: Embrace Change

Don't waste time making Windows 8 look and work like Windows 7

Dec. 8, 2012 Paul Thurrott

While most of the over 50 Windows 8 tips I’ve written so far have focused on specific new features and functionality, this one is a bit more general. If you do upgrade to Windows 8, my advice is to embrace the changes that Microsoft has made to this new OS and not try to circumvent them with utilities that emulate the old-fashioned user interfaces of previous Windows versions.

There are many aspects to this change, but the two that are most commonly cited by well-meaning but misguided tech enthusiasts are the removal of the Start button and Start menu from Windows 8. I mentioned one such utility in Windows 8 Tip: Boot Directly to the Desktop, but don’t misinterpret the advice. I do understand the need for desktop PC users to get as quickly to the desktop environment as possible. But I do not recommend trying to add an old-fashioned Start button or Start menu to Windows 8.

As I written previously, both the Start button and Start menu have superior successors in Windows 8.

You can mouse into the lower-left corner of the screen to access the new Start tip, which does indeed allow you to access the Start menu’s replacement—the Start screen—when clicked (or tapped).

But the Start tip is superior to the Start button. For one, it’s consistent and appears via the same means in all Windows 8 user experiences, including the desktop and Metro. And unlike the Start button, it work as a toggle: When you access this thumbnail from the Start screen, you’ll return to the previous experience.

(You can also access this Start functionality by tapping WINKEY on your keyboard or the Windows Key button on your device.)

As for the Start menu, Microsoft has replaced this interface with various new interfaces that make more sense and work more logically.

The application-launching functionality from the Start screen has been replaced by application launching capabilities in both the taskbar (for desktop applications and web application shortcuts) and the Start screen (Metro apps, desktop applications, Explorer locations, web application shortcuts, and more).

Start Search works exactly as before: Just access the Start screen and start typing. The interface is new—it’s full-screen and segregates apps/applications, settings/control panels, and file—but it’s also better because it lets you search Metro-style apps too.

Other functionality from the overloaded and nonsensical Start menu can be found in the Settings pane (WINKEY + I or Charms, Settings), including shutdown and restart, which can be found under the Power icon.

Put simply, yes, you could waste time and even money trying to find a Start button and Start menu replacement for Windows 8. Or you could just use Windows 8. My vote is for the latter approach. And just a small investment of time will set you up for the future, since Microsoft is turning to this kind of experience in its mobile, desktop, and living room experiences.

Don’t be a chump. The Start button and Start menu were cool in 1995. Today, they’re as passé as the clunky computers we used back then.

Discuss this Article 91

eclowes3050

on Dec 8, 2012

Hey Paul, Is there a simple, one click way to see all of your installed apps in Win 8 (something similar to Launchpad in OS X) ? Sorry if you've said before but I missed it.

pthurrott

on Dec 8, 2012

Yes, should have added that. It's the All Apps view. You can see this from Search, or by right-clicking (or typing WINKEY + Z) from the Start screen.

eclowes3050

on Dec 8, 2012

Brilliant, thank you sir.

remain

on Dec 8, 2012

Hi.

If we're talking keyboard shortcuts, there are 3 ways, in fact:

1) (the way that Paul mentioned)
- go to Start screen
- Windows Z (to show the app bar at the bottom)
- Enter (to 'click' on "All apps")

2)
- go to Start screen
- Ctrl Tab (This toggles between the Start screen and the "All apps" screen!)

3) (This one doesn't require going to the Start screen first!)
- Windows Q (to bring up the "All apps" screen with the "Search" bar open)
- Esc (to close the "Search" bar)

Hope this helps.

GoodThings2Life

on Dec 8, 2012

It's a shame WINKEY+Z isn't a universal for All Apps. Generally I pin the apps I frequently use (either to Taskbar or to Start Screen), but every now and again I dive in and that one aspect does take more effort (I ignore it since it's so infrequent).

Generally, though, I completely agree. It's easier to just embrace the change than to fight it. It's a losing battle, and there's so much to gain from the new stuff.

mod6538

on Dec 10, 2012

WinKey+Z is the shortcut to show/hide appbars. It is universal across all apps. The appbars are app-specific, of course.

paul4iw

on Dec 16, 2012

Just another one of the many illogical and non-intuitive idiosyncrasies of Windows 8. The fact that something as crucial as finding a list of all applications installed is as awkward and non-obvious as this is pathetic. Why could they not simply have a permanent "All apps" menu option in the bottom-right? (one that not only avoids people from having to ask such questions but one that is one less click away).

This same illogical practice of hiding away critical functionality from users is scattered right through Windows 8. Whether it be the fact that there is no search box to make it obvious to the fact that you can type on the start screen, to the various hidden pieces of intrusive functionality which only apply to "metro" but plague the desktop, it seems that Microsoft really has let the lunatics in control of the asylum.

addicted2088

on Dec 8, 2012

"since Microsoft is turning to this kind of experience in its mobile, desktop, and living room experiences"

And what exactly is the percentage of users using a Windows Phone that we see this as a good thing? Not trolling, but the same experience across all does not mean a good thing if only one of those products is actually being used by a huge market.
And no, Windows Phone is not the best option for all smartphone users (neither is Android or iOS), so I wouldn't exactly suggest everyone to buy one either.

I would love to use the new Start, if only it would not be a full screen menu, which is just silly if you have no use for those Metro apps and is a jarring experience.

But I will say that it's not as bad as some power users make it out to be, just would be nice if I didn't have to go into a full screen menu for it. Like I say though, change is acceptable when it's an improvement, but frankly the new Start is NOT an improvement for everyone, not apparently anyway.

worleyeoe

on Dec 9, 2012

Um you can remove every Moden UI app from the Start screen and at that point it basically returns nearly the exact function as you had in your Start menu. It's just temporarily hidden until you hover in the left corner, which had to be done in previous versions of Windows. Again, stop fighting change and use the built-in ability to customize Windows 8.

addicted2088

on Dec 8, 2012

Also, no need to waste money on replacements like Pokki or Retro (or whatever that name was) or Start8, just get the free Classic Shell. Searching it takes little time, much less than getting used to the new Start.

P.S: Just a tip for those looking for one, if the new Start works for you, then it's well and good.

pfismvg

on Dec 8, 2012

I tried to get used to windows 8 for several months, and hated working on it. The "new" start menu stays annoying, no matter how long you work with it. Only after installing classic explorer it started to get fun to work with again. At first I was still annoyed about being kicked back to metro every time I opened an pdf, image video or music file. But now I have most default actions fixed to non metro programs, and at this point I can enjoy the fast OS that Microsoft has created.
This metro is something the users that use their desktop to multitask should fight to the end. Metro probably is fine for tablets, but it has no place on a desktop.

addicted2088

on Dec 8, 2012

That movement to and fro from a full screen menu to the desktop is exactly the most irritating aspect, and is only good if you're willing to stay in the new Start menu at the time (the ability to pin those apps at the side for multitasking in Modern Start doesn't cut it). And well said, with Classic Shell, I can now enjoy the actual benefits of Windows 8, like the faster and quicker performance, flat non-Aero look (which I love), explorer improvements, etc. I find no scenario in which I want to use those Metro apps either, so I don't see any reason to continue to try to like the new Start screen, which I gave up on after a month.

But alas, some people want to just push this change on to others saying it's better, even though it's not better for everyone. But oh well, to each his own I guess.

AlexKven

on Dec 8, 2012

This is a good article. People try to fight change, but they will have to confront change sooner or later. When I got windows 8, it took me about a week to get used to the changes, but after that, it felt like normal. I DID get classicshell for the start menu, but only to try it out to see how it works. I immediately re-enabled the hot corners, and soon after, I disabled the actual button, too. Now, I only have it used for the shift+winkey shortcut for the classic shell menu for those times when I really need it. The start screen is my new start menu! I have 13 app groups and 117 pinned tiles.

eclowes3050

on Dec 8, 2012

I confronted this particular change from Microsoft by buying my first Mac.

We do have other options. That said, I *want* stay with Windows for my desktop PC (the Mac is a Macbook Air) for gaming now and then and because I like the freedom to change the bits inside the case whenever I wish. I don't care for anything I've heard about Win 8, or seen. Frankly, I think that start screen is ugly as sin. It's OK for a phone or tablet but it's not what I want on my desktop. But, Paul and the other poster answered one of my question, that lowers one barrier on one point, at any rate.

AlexKven

on Dec 8, 2012

On the contrary, I think that the start screen is beautiful. You probably wouldn't hate it so much if you knew all that it did. Because it replaces the old start menu, you can launch applications (even desktop ones), search, and group from the start screen. Believe me, I didn't like it when I first saw it, but now I'm used to it and it's great. Imagine that apple combined its IOS and OSX software into one desktop operating system (IOSX?). You could use normal desktop software, but you could also switch and play your favorite iPad game. Windows 8 is a lot like that, except the experience is a lot more integrated than that. Remember that the whole point of this article is that change is hard, but that doesn't mean that you should go out of your way to avoid it.

addicted2088

on Dec 9, 2012

My main issue is that I don't want to jump to a full screen each time I want the Start menu, plus I don't want to play all those games etc on the desktop, those are relegated to my Android phone. I use an image editing software, Chrome, Windows Media Player, and MS Word every day for more than 8 hours a day, and the new Start screen doesn't exactly have anything I need, so the integration isn't for everyone I guess.

thecelt

on Dec 8, 2012

I too tried to get used to Win 8 and have it on one of 4 machines I use. I don't hate it- I despise it. It has its place- I bought my non-tech wife and father-in-law windows phones (I'm on Android). First and foremost, I really don't like the look of the thing- it looks like it escaped from 1986- I guess Microsoft must be all Back to the Future fans. I won't try to redo Win 8 into Win 7- I expect Microsoft will ultimately do that as an option- (see John Dvorak's 12/3 opinion piece which I have believed for some time) instead, I'll stay on Win 7, and move to a Mac or Linux unless Microsoft allows some other main interface than this hideous, garish mess.

lorinkundert

on Dec 11, 2012

I did that already, Linux Mint is a good choice for former windows users, Ubuntu is doing the same garbage, one size fits all products GUI

zorb58

on Dec 8, 2012

Not sure why people are hating on the start screen. Truthfully, when starting a program or app or anything else for that matter, I barely look at it. Hit the Windows key and start typing what I need, then press enter. I can just look look at my keyboard the whole time if I want to. That said, I enjoy all of metro and try to utilize apps as much as I can while still NEEDING to spend 95% of my time on the desktop. My only irritation is that you cannot pin whatever you want to the start screen. I've resorted to the old Windows 7 trick of pinning hidden library shortcuts to the taskbar to pin Firefox bookmarks to the start screen. It's a flawless solution, but there shouldn't need to be a solution.

Morris

on Dec 8, 2012

Thanks to zorb58 this is the first time I knew about the concept of just typing after hitting the windows key. I thought I had to windows-c, press the Search icon to search before searching for a program. I am a sophisticated user yet the idea of just typing didn't come into my mind. I guess I will have to keep reading enthusiast blogs like this to use this product. The whole point of GUI is for the user to easily self discover how to use the product. Windows 8 fails at simple discovery. One small tangent, I just fired up an old Vista machine and the UI is actually pretty.

lvthunder

on Dec 10, 2012

"The whole point of GUI is for the user to easily self discover how to use the product."

No it's not. The point is to get done what you want to get done. The companies these days just don't want to put the time into writing good documentation and including it with the product.

bricko

on Dec 8, 2012

My suggestion is wait for SP1....when they fix this complete cluster.....

jlua001

on Dec 8, 2012

My main problem with Windows 8 is not the "Start" screen or menu, or lack thereof. My main problem is its split/squizofrenic personality as if it there were two separate Os´s which don´t talk to each other. For instance, there is a Skype desktop version and a "Modern" version. They act and behave o their own as if the other one didn´t exist, plus their functionality is different. They even update via separate mechanisms (Win Update, and Store, resp.). Same with all others, plus it just happens that many -if not most- "Modern versions of existing apps are half-baked versions of the "Desktop" apps. This split personality just doesn´t make sense to me. Bad design, IMHO.

aras

on Dec 8, 2012

Absolutely agree! Metro on Desktop just doesn't make any sense. Tech savy users will find ways around this. But for normal people this completely pointless dual nature of Windows is extremely confusing! Just look and comments for Skype app in Windows Store (2 stars). Large number of people complaining think that this is an upgrade / replacement for desktop Skype version!

dregourd

on Dec 8, 2012

Hi Paul
I iron my shirts every sunday listening to your podcast, but frankly, you are going too far. This start screen is simply an ugly tactile mask on windows face, and the quicker it will be suppressed, the better we will feel. Useless paths nor commands never make a good design. Never.

roncerr

on Dec 8, 2012

Back in the 70s, they invented permanent press.

dave

on Dec 8, 2012

Whichever developer/UI designer who thought the best logical flow for the user is to flip to the start screen using a hidden button, completely change the current UI style from classic to metro, and then flip back to classic needs their head examined.

Simply telling users to get with the programme isn't solving the root cause, which is that Windows 8 UI is terrible.

Windows 7 for me. Tried Windows 8, worse that useless on my non-touchscreen laptop.

Evancool

on Dec 8, 2012

While there are good points on this article, I still cannot see how this would work in a desktop environment. I usually try to embrace change, but Windows 8 makes it very difficult to do so.

Here is my problem, I am a power user that multitasks frequently, I use 3 monitors, I have 3-6 windows open at all times, none of them maximized. While I can do this with legacy apps on Windows 8 on the classic desktop, I cannot do this with native apps as they force you to run them at full screen.

Some might say you can bring 2 apps on screen, but the real estate is 80% for one app and 20% for the other. There is no flexibility there.

Additionally, Microsoft wants you to store everything in the cloud, even your user account. So users that can't get broadband Internet won't be able to use most of the features.

So here is my final thought, Windows 8 is for broadband consumers that play games and spend all day on social networks. It has no place in the enterprise.

blakjedi

on Dec 9, 2012

Considering that the air force and other large organizations are moving to windows 8... Your final pronouncement may not be as accurate as you believe. I have been using windows in all it's incarnations for a year and have piloted it in my organization on the desktop for the last three months and only the users that believe that they are power users had active gripes. Most "power users" are actually just impatient people that tend to be rigid and vocal... While true powers that are creatives, engineers, and developers had zero problems with the UI once they received a ten minute introduction to metro gestures.

Win 8 is faster, more lightweight (thereby pushing back our CPU hardware refresh need by around 18 months) and more stable than 7 or xp. We got users to point their file associations to desktop apps so they would not need to flick back and forth between the desktop and metro unnecessarily.

Most users report enjoying the active at a glance updates the live tiles allow and many have gotten very proficient at using the charms bar which for my money is the greatest os innovation in windows 8.

Don't waste your money or time on start8. Learning and modifying windows 8 based on the tools and innovations already present is your best bet. Especially if your enterprise is a mobile active directory based enterprise- knowing that your exact desktop awaits you whether you are at a desk in manhattan or Mumbai, or sitting with your win 8 tablet is a definite productivity boon.

casualk127

on Dec 9, 2012

I disagree with how you are portraying a power user experience. I too consider myself a power users and I have to run multiple programs at once. But to say you have to run native apps full screen is just not true. Also at this point there are not many native apps you would be using as a power user that you would need 3 or more open at one time. Let me take a screenshot of my desktop to show you how as a so called Power User I can still get my work done https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=EC367531E3CD57AB!291&authkey=!AKGU-H5uLhbhvDY.
As you can see I have two websites open in the back on the first monitor and then also running Word and OneNote, while on the second monitor I am run FL Studio full screen. Oh and I didn’t mention I am running Metro tweet in the 20% pane on the first monitor as well.
I know you already know all this can be done but people are making too many excuses about what Windows 8 is not and instead of like Paul said trying to embrace change. Windows will change over time and to be honest I hope they keep their vision focus and not go back to the old ways because some people can’t move forward.
PS. You can always login to a local account on Windows 8 and forget the cloud but I don’t recommend that.

Evancool

on Dec 10, 2012

Thanks for the response, and the screenshot. Like you said, it shows that with legacy apps you can still work as previously. See how the native app forces 20% real estate. It can't be less. If the system had all Windows 8 apps then it would truly force full screen whether 100% for one app or 20/80 for two apps. I just really think it hinders multitasking. I'm sorry for the excuses, but I really think they are legitimate concerns, and I'm not alone.

aras

on Dec 8, 2012

I tried to use Windows 8 as it is for 2 months. Full screen start screen simply doesn't work for me. OK, I don't care about it on my home laptop, but it'a a huge distraction on a work PC.

During working day I constantly open and close small tools and utilities, way too many to pin them all to a taskbar. I do this by pressing Windows key and typing the application name, normally without taking my eyes of the main stuff I work on. Obviously this doesn't work in Windows 8 as stupid start screen covers whole deskop.

Start8 was the best $5 I spend in a long time!

AlexKven

on Dec 9, 2012

I do agree with you in that respect (and this is coming from a guy who is very pro-start screen). People with work PCs or servers or otherwise need to run many business applications at once will actually find the start screen a downgrade of productivity. For most users, it will seamlessly blend into their routine within a month of getting Windows 8, but I think that business that heavily use the desktop for many applications would be better off with a start menu replica until the platform improves.

Recommendation: Classicshell is free unlike start8, and provides a start menu.

studio4llc

on Dec 8, 2012

Paul is correct. Windows 8 is inevitable, so deal with it and work to make it work, as best as possible, within it's native environment. Unfortunately, Windows 8 is the OS and not software, where you can retain legacy versions while you adapt to the newer version.

dave

on Dec 8, 2012

This is a ridiculous comment. This isn't some kind of decree from the Supreme Soviet. We're consumers, if we don't like a version of Windows then we simply don't have to use it...

Boots

on Dec 8, 2012

The start search does not work exactly as before.

For starters, without any visual clues that you can search from the start screen, a lot of people won't even know that they can just start typing to search.

In windows 7, if I want to go to a Control Panel setting, for example Windows Update. I just type "upd" press Enter and Windows Update will open.
In Windows 8 if I type "upd" I get a message saying "No apps match your search". I have to click the Settings button, then on the Windows Update icon.

When I search for a file in Windows 7. If I want to copy it, I can drag the file straight from the Start menu into a folder window, done.
In Windows 8 I have to click the Files button, right click the file icon, click the "Open file Location" icon on the bottom of the screen, copy the file across and finally, close off the file location window. 5 steps instead of 1.

The start menu can hold shortcuts to documents and files. For some reason, both the Taskbar and Startscreen don't support this feature.

blakjedi

on Dec 9, 2012

You can pin any document or setting to the task bar.

Boots

on Dec 9, 2012

I mean directly to the taskbar. Not to a program's jump list.
If there is a way to pin to the Taskbar, please let me know, I have not been able to work out how to do it.

PM76

on Dec 8, 2012

After using Windows 8 I don't miss the start menu at all. In fact its quicker to hit the tile or start search than drilling down a start menu. My only gripe is the over simplification of metro. For example why can't I do everything through the metro PC settings without going to desktop control panel? Why can't I snap more than one app in metro? Why on 1/3 of the screen when I have a 24" monitor? I wish MS will update Win8 so we can snap 4 apps in various resolutions 1/3, 1/2 and 1/4

SamR

on Dec 8, 2012

I found the transition to Windows 8 pretty seamless once I found out about the Left Bottom Right Click, better known as Win+X, I like using the mouse when i can. Before then getting to those tools was a bother, now it is better than W7.

I have left my Windows 8 stock, I don't like changing standard behaviour much otherwise when I go to another PC I have to remember how it was. I did though turn off the Smart Tile updating, seemed like a waste of CPU and bandwidth for something I do not use .... Yet?

There is no doubt that many people miss the Start Menu and hence hate Windows 8. I frequent another forum and the discussion there gets heated at times.

Jim Scott

on Dec 9, 2012

Win+X? Thank you! Every day another useful shortcut.

ariesdog

on Dec 8, 2012

Ironically I have some legacy program leftover from when I upgraded to Windows 8 that makes my computer go to desktop whenever it starts up. I don't want it do that but it doesn't bother me enough to hunt it down.

CaliforniaBear

on Dec 9, 2012

I feel the few minutes I spent installing Classic Shell to Not be a waste of time. While I seldom used the Start button in any version of Windows I do find that booting directly to the Desktop to be a match to my usual working environment. The Start Button, All Programs hierarchical menu is much easier to use when looking for a program I seldom use. All my other programs and frequently used files are icons on my desktop taking less than 5% of my total working area or are in a conveniently located Utilities folder. I do use the Start Screen when I have time to investigate the Windows 8 programs. Unfortunately most of them consume too much area on one of my 24-inch monitors. I have been using the release version of Windows 8 every day since October 26th and find it completely satisfactory for getting my work done. I found your Windows 8 Secrets book very useful in getting started. Beyond that, any questions I have are quickly answered via Google searches.

DaveLessnau

on Dec 9, 2012

Change for the sake of change is not good and is not something to aspire to.

If I were using Windows 8 on some kind of touch screen, I'd have some reason to "embrace change" and stick with the Metro interface. But, I'm on the same computer I had with Windows 7 and have no need to change how I do things just so I can change how I do things. Especially when those changes just irritate me by getting in the way.

I tried "embracing change" for almost a month. But, after that, the constant drip-drip-drip of those nagging irritations that, basically, got me nothing in return added up. The single best thing I did was install Stardock's Start8 (I'm sure the other equivalent programs would be just as good). Now, I have all the architectural/engineering benefits Microsoft added to Windows 8 without the irritations. I almost never see the Metro UI and, outside of Microsoft's USB 3.0 drivers not working properly, am pretty darn happy with Windows 8. If I had just "embraced change" and continued to try to live with that (to me, useless) new UI, I doubt I'd be anywhere near as happy.

On my Lumia 920, the Windows Phone 8 UI is just fine. Give me a Windows 8 tablet for information consumption and I'd probably be happy as can be with the Metro UI. But, on my desktop, give me the technical advances and leave my UI alone.

AlexKven

on Dec 9, 2012

The sad thing about people complaining about this is the fact that Microsoft put in place measures to make the transition easy, and that most of these only apply to desktops and laptops. For example, the start screen can be accessed by clicking the lower left corner, which is relevant because its near where the start button was (and I imagine that most people moved their mouse all the way to the corner, anyway). Second, they left search the same way, so that it would just work. This feature wasn't well documented, but you could still search the long way by using the search charm. Third, it is fully compatible with desktop app(lication)s.

There is no way to make a change and satisfy people, isn't there? How about this: Use Windows 8 for a month before you judge it. Get the 90 day trial, run it in a virtual machine, and use it as much as you can.

Vinny4

on Dec 9, 2012

To each his own, I have installed Windows 8 on my desktop and laptop and not looking back, works great, everything syncs, fast and easy to use. I've had nothing but great experiences with Win8 so far. I'm a network and systems admin....do I miss the start menu...? Not really, why? Because the start screen works the exact same way. I do 99% of my work on the desktop and I sometimes forget that I'm using Windows 8, in the end, for me, it hasn't been that much of a change/transition at all.

ozaz

on Dec 9, 2012

Agree with Boots, Start search is not as obvious as it should be and gives potentially confusing results.

Having said that, I do actually prefer Win 8 Start screen to the old start menu (even though I don't have a touchscreen device and I only use desktop apps), the main reason being I think the ability to arrange app tiles into groups is a really useful feature (eg I have a graphics app group, a video apps group, etc). This helps me remember all the tools I have available on my PC when I need to do a certain task.

alvatrus

on Dec 9, 2012

The problem is not with the start screen, the problem is with the lack of metro-style apps.
Once enough classic desktop applications get to Metro, only then change will be accepted.
OneNote was a most important eye-opener for me: How would a classic (moderately complex) application be translated to the Metro environment? That application should be a study case for other software companies and try to make sense of it.
Once we get our Office, Photoshop, MovieMaker, Lightroom, etc. into the Metro realm, including a thorough redesign UI-interface to take advantage of Metro, then Metro starts to become a viable solution. Otherwise it will remain on life-support.

wjburl

on Dec 9, 2012

There was a time when people bitched about the need to go to Start to Power Down. Now there in a graphical version of the Start Menu. What's the big deal? Has there ever been an OS change that was universally accepted? It's strange that some will complain about change and say they are switching to a Mac. I've lived thru the MS changes in OSs starting with the original DOS on an IBM PC back in 81. With each upgrade, there is a roar from the "challenged" that they have to learn something new. Things change - get over it!

AlexKven

on Dec 10, 2012

Because it is such a -pain- to click "Start" to shut down the computer. It's not even a usability issue. It's a three click procedure to shut down the computer. Seriously, what do people expect? Where else is there to put it? Why is it so wrong to click "Start" to shut down the computer? "Start" is just a name of a menu, you don't have to be "starting" to use the start menu. On Windows Vista and 7, it doesn't even say "Start."

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