(While you’re hear, visit the Computer Name tab and make sure you know what the name of this computer..)
Very useful article, thank you Paul. But I had no idea computers could hear!
Remote Desktop lacks one of Live Mesh's best features: you could run a remote desktop session from Internet Explorer. No VPN configuration, not screwing around with system configuration, just a nice simple click-and-go interface. Ditching that feature is quite a regression, especially for non-technical users.
If you simply need access to your desktop from anywhere why not simply use free LogMein version? No fancy features but dos the job, works with any web browser, and super simple to setup.
Chrome recently added a Remote Desktop feature without the complexity of VPN and all that. Even if you don't use Chrome as your default browser it's a great feature for this sort of thing.
You can find it in the Chrome Web Store, just search for "Chrome Remote Desktop"
Hope this helps.
I wish I could do this from my Surface RT. My workaround is to change the RDP listening port for each of my PCs at home. I only have 3 Windows boxes to connect to, so it's not that big of a deal.
Here is a link for changing the RDP listening port in the registry. Instructions are good for Win7 and Win8:
Then from my surface I have all of my computers pinned via the Remote Desktop jump list from the Desktop side of RT. Works perfectly, and I don't have to deal with VPN software installed on my PCs.
Also for those of you looking to set it up like this, don't forget that you will need to open whatever ports you used for the RDP listener on your firewall. I used 3387, 3388, and 3389. 3389 is the default port so I only had to manually configure two of my computers.
But then you are exposing your workstations directly to the internet rather than having multiple layers of protection.
Sure, but what other options do I have if I want to connect from Surface RT. I've been testing out TeamViewer, but it's not a great experience. It's not terrible, but not great.
Trying to do this from a Surface RT but our company's VPN is Juniper which requires a browser plugin, and of course, RT won't install it. And RT can't join a domain. Is the only solution to use LogMeIn and bypass the company's VPN?
[Basically, you just need to ensure that the Hamachi client is installed on each PC—the remote PC and the one from which you’ll be connected—and that each is configured to use the same virtual network.]
Question: The Log Me In software seems to indicate Windows x86 software which would not run on Surface (RT). Since Remote Desktop is also available on RT then the appeal would be to use RT to access legacy Windows software on a remote PC across the Internet. If this would only work across the home wireless LAN then RT is not as appealing even as a companion device. I looked in Windows Store for a Metro app for Log Me In, but none yet.
Help, if possible, for how to connect a Surface RT to home PC over the Internet, please.
I have been using Windows Home Server for remote desktop functionality ever since WHS v1. It's as simple as logging into my xxx.homeserver.com domain, entering my username/password and then selecting which PC I want to remotely connect to. I am using WHS 2011 right now, but am considering the upgrade to Windows Server Essentials, which I assume also has this functionality,
Teamviewer is available as a Metro app and the client is free for private use. I've installed it on my Windows 8 Pro machine and I can access this remotely at anytime from my Surface tablet
Great! I was wondering how this worked. Definitely going to set it up with my Surface.
Is it possible to have the a USB peripheral connected to the client device (in my case Surface RT) but be recognized by the host PC (in this case my desktop at home)
I really wish when a pundit tries to discredit someone's concern - they would actually take the time to understand the real issues and not do a strawman argument.
Here's the thing that LiveMesh can do that none of these (except LogMeIn) can do.
Since all of the clients installed by LiveMesh ping a common server through port 80 - which is almost always open in most companies - it means you can remote access your systems THROUGH FIREWALLS.
I've used this in situations where I've needed to give an external contractor temporary access to a server on the inside of the corporate network without having to slog through weeks of IT beurocracy.
Or to get access to my work computer from a client site without having to worry about firewalls.
While we're at it - the other feature that went missing is the ability to move files peer to peer again, without firewall issues.
Am I the "pundit" in this conspiracy theory?
I've written tons about replacing Live Mesh with SkyDrive and used SkyDrive regularly for years, including the production of three books in which I shared content with another writer. So I get Live Mesh.
It doesn't matter what Live Mesh could do, it's going away. So what we can do now is just figure out the best way(s) to replace it.
You might also want to check your router. It might have VPN support built in. I know mine does. This would remove the need for Hamachi.
> But if you want to access your home PC while out in the world, …you will need an additional piece of software called a VPN, or Virtual Private Network.
Why? I've been using RDC for years over the Internet, with nothing more than the remote PC's IP address. Free services like DynDNS and No-IP make that part easy. Is it insecure to do it this way? Just wondering the reasoning here, particularly at $29/year for Himachi…
Yes. It is insecure to RDP over the Internet without using an encrypted tunnel underneath to secure the connection. You are exposing yourself to session hijacking. RDP only encrypts the initial password handshake. Everything else is open TCP/IP packet flow.
Secure Remote connectivity over the Internet depends on several things. But the two most basic are:
1) Knowing the IP address of the remote host you are connecting to. It can be a public static IP (with or without DNS services) or one provided by a dynamic DNS provider (as you pointed out).
2) A secure channel (encrypted) running over the public Internet between the two endpoint devices. This can be an IPsec or an SSLVPN tunnel. It can be gateway-to-gateway (VPN router to VPN router) or it can be client-to-gateway.
Setting all of this up on your own can be somewhat difficult for the average user. This is the reason many people prefer to use an intermediary site such as LogMeIn, LiveMesh, etc. because they proxy the end to end connectivity and secure the connection for you.
I have been using Remote desktop paired with Dynu.com's free dynamic DNS service to access my PC at home and work for the past several years.
Nice post in regards to configuring remote access in Windows 8. One can use various remote support tools such as gosupportnow, Logmeinrescue, GoToMyPC etc. or deploy on premise remote support appliance such as RHUB or Bomgar appliances in order to establish remote connection between Windows 8 and other computers.
Just thought I'd chime in (super late) and let you know that this does in fact work on an RT, just go through the web browser (yup even metro IE worked) and log in as usual, low and behold there's my desktop. Sweet.
I have a fresh version of 8 installed and I just put 8.1 on. The fist time I try remote desktop and it doesn't work. I tried many things. The weird thing is in the "systems properties" dialog window, under the remote tab, the "entire "remote desktop" area is missing. The "select users" button as well. Any ideas?
Did this last issue ever get resolved? In other words, has anyone actually used Remote Desktop on Windows 8.1 Pro? I need to know before I begin a number of upgrades.
Thanks for article, Paul. Big fan of Windows Weekly.
I'm trying to use remote desktop in Windows 8.1 Pro via Hamachi and having a heck of a time. I've allowed the Hamachi app through the firewall and I've reinstalled it but I'm unable to ping the machine or Remote to it from the Internet. Any advice?
NM. I figured it out. Once I installed the latest version of Hamachi, opened incoming and outgoing traffic to RDC and Hamachi then did a little dance, it worked.
Keep up the great work with Leo and the gang! Thanks again.
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