Mailbag: December 9, 2012

I get mail. Here's some of it

In this edition of the Mailbag: An update on the new SuperSite for Windows, the domino effect of Microsoft’s inability to effectively explain the limitations of Surface RT and the differences between that and Surface Pro, Windows Phone 8 and Verizon, Spotify and Windows Phone 8, the future of Live Mesh, Windows 8’s Push Button Reset and PC makers, and my whiny and uninformed opinion about Windows Phone 7.8.

If you have questions, please email me.

Update on the new SuperSite

About one month ago, we upgraded the SuperSite to a completely new infrastructure based on Drupal, replacing the Dot Net Nuke (DNN) content management system we had used for the previous two years. (Before that, the SuperSite was based on a classic ASP CMS that I designed and built in the late 1990s.) I wanted to provide a brief update about how things are going.

They are going very well.

Since before the inception of the SuperSite—back when it was just a “Future of Windows” section of a previous web site—I’ve adhered to what I think of as “guerilla publishing,” the goal being to get information to readers as quickly as possible. A critic once told me he’d “rather be right then first.” I of course would rather be both, but I’ll take .500 if it comes to that: This is the web, and I can fix/change anything as needed. Publishing a new article, and fixing an existing one, works better when the underlying infrastructure just works. Such is the case with Drupal.

If you do follow this site, you will likely have noticed that I’ve stepped up the pace of publishing. (That is, I publish more often.) This can be traced to two factors.

First, I’ve been meaning for some time to adapt to a more blog-like format in which I publish more and shorter posts rather than fewer long articles. I’ve been burned many times in the past by writing a comprehensive article about whatever product, only to have bloggers come along and make a single post about one topic that was in that longer article of mine. The tips I’m writing now for Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8, as with previous tips series, are an attempt to reverse this trend, to get to the point and address single, easily digestible topics one at a time. I still overwrite, I can’t help it. But it’s a process.

Second, Drupal just makes it easier. This system is wonderful, and while you’ll never see the backend stuff, suffice to say it makes my life a lot easier. I’m amazed by how much better it is. Night and day.

Many misunderstood the lack of comments on the previous site. Only the “blog” part of the SuperSite, which was added years after the main part of the site, supported comments; some thought I was purposefully leaving comments off of certain articles to avoid criticism or whatever. Not so: I’ve always wanted the SuperSite to be a two-way conversation, and not a dictate from on high. And the comments section we now have not only proves that, but proves that rich conversation is both possible and more desirable to the often hateful crap that appears in unmoderated and anonymous comments sections elsewhere.

And yes, I do moderate each comment personally and individually. I have to: Everyday there are few examples of comments spam, which I find both amusing and sad, and even a few slightly over the line personal attacks, and about once a week I get an incredibly heinous comment from some never-do-well that I write personally and explain why his comment isn’t going live. This is usually met by some indignant, hate-fill rant via email, as expected. And then life goes on.

Most of the comments, however, have been superb, and appreciated. People helping people, people pointing out mistakes, people agreeing and disagreeing like adults. I knew it could be like this. And it is. Thank you.

The volume of the comments is simply astounding, almost overwhelming, and I’ve had to adapt my daily workflow to deal with it. I feel that it’s worth it: When Penton has asked about taking over this duty for me, I feel that I need to see what people are saying so I can respond or otherwise pipe in when required, so there’s no way anyone else could do this for me.

I don’t see a way to see how many comments have been logged, but I had approved over 500 comments in the first 4 days, which was the last time I saw any kind of figure. Based on the time I spend approving comments each day, it’s been pretty consistent. Again, thanks.

Looking ahead, there are probably more features of the underlying CMS I could be using. I’ve been pretty much just publishing posts/articles each day, but there are photo/screenshot slideshow features and more to examine. And there are alternative layouts for the front-page I’ve not used since the site was in beta, mostly since I just like the way it looks. But I’ll get to all that. The point for now is that, one month in, this upgrade has gone swimmingly from my perspective. I couldn’t be happier.

Customers continue to completely misunderstand Surface RT/Windows RT

Back in mid-October I wrote What is Windows RT? Redmond, We Have a Problem in response to an amazing well-spring of email proving that Microsoft’s decision to launch Surface with Windows RT alongside Windows 8 was a marketing disaster: Customers just had no idea that Windows RT isn’t compatible with the thousands of available desktop applications and browser plug-ins, not to mention many hardware devices. They still don’t.

Michael M. asks:

I'm thinking of purchasing a Surface. Does it support the Java Runtime, especially in IE? And is it possible to pair it with a Bluetooth keyboard such as the Apple Desktop keyboard, rather than needing to purchase one of the covers?

The current (Windows RT-based) Surface tablet does not support Java. But it does work with Bluetooth keyboards. I've not tested the Apple keyboard explicitly, however.

They also don’t understand Surface with Windows 8 Pro

It’s not just Surface RT that’s the problem. Perhaps spurred by news that Surface RT isn’t as widely compatible as were previous Windows products, I get a lot of email about whether Surface with Windows 8 Pro supports certain features. Case in point:

Carl E. asks:

Any idea if the Surface Pro will support Bitlocker Disk Encryption?

Yes, it's full Windows 8 Pro, it has every feature that's in that version of the OS.

And…

Tom M. asks:

Do you know if the Surface Pro can join a Domain?

Yes. It’s Windows 8 Pro.

And so on. Only Microsoft could create this kind of confusion.

Windows Phone 8 and Verizon

Verizon Wireless has curiously decided to prevent Windows Phone 8 handsets from sending group texts (that is, text messages to two or more people.) Why? I have no idea. But it’s not all bad news.

Garry J. asks:

Is it just me or did Verizon Wireless ruin the Windows Phone 8 launch by disabling group texting?

I'm not sure why they did this, of course (SMS spam worries?) but I'm not sure this one feature kills WP on Verizon.

More to the point, you do get two additional features from your HTC Windows Phone 8X on Verizon, features that are not available at other carriers:

1. Wireless charging. The Verizon version of the HTC 8X, which is a bit heavier than the AT&T version, includes support for the Qi wireless charging standard. So you can use a wireless charger—like the Nokia Wireless Charging Plate—to charge the device.

2. Data Sense. Verizon is currently the exclusive carrier for Windows Phone 8’s Data Sense feature, which helps you keep track of your data usage.

Spotify and Windows Phone 8

Microsoft says that all Windows Phone 7.x apps are compatible with Windows Phone 8. And yet some Windows Phone 7.5 apps are not available to Windows Phone 8 users in Windows Store. Curious.

Martin S. asks:

I’m getting reports that the Spotify app that worked fine on WP7.5 is nowhere to be seen on WP8. Worth investigating?

I’ve seen this as well. According to WPCentral, Spotify is working on a WP8 version of the app. Not clear why the current one doesn't work, but this is the case with a few WP7.5 apps.

Update: Andrew Birch offers a potential and believable reason for this incompatibility:

"I think I can explain why at least some of the Windows Phone 7.5 apps haven’t made it across to Windows Phone 8. As you probably know, some of the big Windows Phone 7.5 apps (Spotify being one of them) were given special permission by Microsoft to use Native Code. Since the kernel has changed in Windows Phone 8, I’m guessing that they need to rewrite those parts that use Native Code to work on Windows Phone 8’s new kernel."

The future of Live Mesh?

I get this one a lot too.

Andrew Z. asks:

I wonder if you know about the Live Mesh’s future. Windows Essentials 2012 has replaced Live Mesh with the SkyDrive desktop application. We have been using Live Mesh since it came out and we feel it’s a very important and useful feature. I am very frustrated that Microsoft has phased out Live Mesh. Is there any possibility that they will add Live Mesh’s features into a new version of Essentials?

There's little doubt that Live Mesh will be discontinued and then phased out over time at some point, but Microsoft has not announced anything like that yet.

More to the point, the SkyDrive desktop application has evolved to the point where it supports Live Mesh’s most important features and of course exceeds Live Mesh on several fronts. I think the key “missing” feature from some users’ perspectives is that it does not support PC-to-PC sync that bypasses the cloud. But I don’t see this being added.

Windows 8, Push Button Reset, and new PCs

Daniel Z. asks:

I have a Windows 8 PC and I used the Push Button Reset function to remove all the OEM bloatware that has been installed on the computer, but it didn't work. I've had it for a few days and haven't really gotten into using it because I want to reformat to wipe all of the third party install software. Do you know how I can do that?

The issue with Push Button Reset is that PC makers can add their stuff into the restore image. So when you reset, you get the factory PC maker image, not the base one.

I'm working with Rafael Rivera to develop instructions on how to overcome this. It's a bit complex but possible. In the meantime, the only option is to just manually remove the stuff you don't like and then use the old Windows 7-era image backup tools to create a system image of that, cleaner system. It takes longer to restore, etc. But it still works.

In fact, I just wrote that up: Windows 8 Tip: Use Windows 7 System Image Backup.

Windows Phone 7.8

In November, I wrote about how Microsoft’s secrecy policies were backfiring in Windows Phone Team: This is No Way to Treat Early Adopters; the firm had announced Windows Phone 7.8 back in June, delivered Windows Phone 8 in October, and had never once updated customers about Windows Phone 7.8.

Tom M. wrote:

Given the reported RTM links/leaks [of Windows Phone 7.8 in blogs], you simply come off as whiny and uninformed. IMO, of course.

Speaking of uninformed, my complaint has nothing at all to do with the timing of 7.8. In fact, I couldn't care less when it ships. What I've written is that Microsoft has done its customers a disservice by announcing they would release this update and then never even providing the most basic of information in the five plus months since doing so.

--

Since this cute little exchange, Microsoft did of course finally address Windows Phone 7.8, further disappointing customers by revealing that this release wouldn’t ship until early 2013. Can I take credit for that announcement? Perhaps. But I’m always happy to be seen as whiny if it gets results.

As for the “uninformed” bit, I’ll just point out that all the blog links that Tom pointed to said that Windows Phone 7.8 would ship “in a matter of days” or “within weeks.” My conversation with him occurred on November 25, and early 2013 is “a matter of months.” I’m still awaiting his apology.

Discuss this Article 37

euskalzabe
on Dec 9, 2012

You do a great job Paul! Sometimes I agree with you, others I don't... but I appreciate your trying to be objective (nobody really ever can) and just for that your work is all the more respectful.

As for the whiners that email you with rants? Some people can't recognize good journalism, they can only accept people who praise whatever device they bought, it's a form of reassurance. Long ago I learned it's best to simply ignore them :)

gwydionjhr
on Dec 9, 2012

The group text function on WP8 actually uses MMS service, not SMS to send the message. Perhaps there is an incompatibility with this and Verizon's CDMA based network.

Ron H
on Dec 9, 2012

As always, informative and entertaining.

kwierso
on Dec 9, 2012

I'm pretty sure I've sent texts to both of my parents at the same time using my 8x on Verizon...

jefferydmitchell
on Dec 9, 2012

Paul, never forget that you do a terrific job and it's always a pleasure for me to read your articles and listen to you, Leo, and Mary Jo each week.

I'm blown away by the fact that you're able to moderate comments. How time consuming!

As for the whiners...well, some people are never happy with anything. The post just to make themselves feel big and important, not because they have anything useful to contribute. I think some also just enjoy a fight; as such they look for any opportunity to start one.

Sterling
on Dec 9, 2012

"Andrew Z."? Why didn't Zarian ask you on WTT about Live Mesh? ;-)

I actually prefer SkyDrive over Live Mesh, but before the former's big update I used to use the latter for its syncing online and PC-to-PC sync, which SkyDrive only does online syncing.

Microsoft said in a blog post that it was aware of the missing features in SkyDrive and was working on it. I don't know if that was just for selective sync.

JERRYWACA
on Dec 9, 2012

Many thanks for your site Paul! The format and content is excellent! Your site in my main source and hub for Windows 8 and WP8 info.

JimmyFal
on Dec 9, 2012

Would love to know what is up with inability to remove Verizon VZNavigator from 8X phones and end up with Bing turn by turn.

When VZ Navigator is removed you end up with Bing Maps, however when you tap the arrow to get to Bings turn by turn system, it only prompts you install an app. So Bings own free turn by turn system has been removed altogether from Verizon phones unless I am mistaken.

pthurrott
on Dec 9, 2012

Unfortunately, that's how Bing Maps works in WP8, not just on Verizon. The turn-by-turn stuff is no longer included.

SoundersFan
on Dec 9, 2012

If it is true, what you say in "Windows Phone 8 and Verizon" section, how does Verizon WP8 Rooms chat feature work? It is simply a group SMS, right?

mikegno
on Dec 9, 2012

I'm still trying to decide whether to jump from Verizon to elsewhere when I get my first Windows Phone. I would also like to know if the Rooms feature works on Verizon as it does elsewhere.

tboggs13
on Dec 9, 2012

Thank you for putting up with us. I appreciate that you actually review the comments to keep in touch and to keep things civil. I refuse to visit other large sites due to the link baiting headlines and their fostering of fan boy bickering in the comments.

Even with your occasional Eeyore like attitude, I still think you are the most accurate and level headed tech journalist covering MS.

In regards to Live Mesh/SkyDrive. I had tried Live Mesh but never really liked it and for one reason or the other, some of it's promised features never materialized or the ones that did failed to work for me. SkyDrive however has worked great and just keeps getting better.

I don't fully trust the cloud, but I never fully trusted my home grown solutions either. By merging the two, I feel much better about both solutions and the integrity of my important data.

jefferydmitchell
on Dec 9, 2012

"I refuse to visit other large sites due to the link baiting headlines and their fostering of fan boy bickering in the comments."

I'm with you on this. Many of the complete B.S. stories, comments, etc. has me rethinking what I spend time reading in the way of so-called "Tech News". Awhile back I posted what I thought was a legitimate concern on a prominent site and was promptly accused of being a troll. Guess I should have just kept my fingers off the keyboard. :)

FinsUpDNC
on Dec 9, 2012

First of all, glad you are loving Drupal. Given the time and knowledge, it is the best CMS out there (imo). I said to you on Twitter that Windows RT should never have included the word Windows in there. That would have helped alleviate so much of the confusion. I mentioned that it should have been called Surface OS. The other tablets we now call RT tablets would have been "powered by Surface OS". On top of that Microsoft then could have dinged apple by saying that your Surface OS apps will run on your Windows 8 machines, unlike Mac OS X that can't run iOS apps. Not that they would listen to me anyway :).

Rev
on Dec 9, 2012

Always look forward to your mail bags :) Be sure to let us know if you ever get that apology.

dscott5683
on Dec 9, 2012

Windows RT needs a option to install and run App store app's from the SD Card, I purchased the 64gb SDXMC , and Only have the 32gb version, space goes fast...

17thMustang
on Dec 9, 2012

I have to agree thatI like your new approach to the site, and the colour rendition is fresh. Like some of the comments I agree that you do have a more level headed approach to tech news, instead of the insidious bias others have. Check the tech section of telegraph.co.uk, its wonderfully Apple bias and will have you slapping your forehead in disbelief in no time.

Oh and its good to see others with Windows phones around here. I thought I was the only one. One was a Nokia 920, which is a big phone compared with the 800. Till now I was happy with WP 7.5, but now that WP 8 is now available I can't wait for the upgrade to WP 7.8.

MS still have to up their game on advertising, all this singing and dancing is fun and quite American in its approach. I would like to see more of the 'Match' adverts. The message in those ads is simple. 'These phones far better.'

I guess the hassle you get in the comments is a bit of a double edged sword. If you didnt get any comments at all and everybody was just happy with whatever smartphone they had, it would get really quiet around here.

Keep up the good work.

Your little graphic of you drinking from a mug. If you didnt already know it was a mug, then it looks like a big comic nose.. ;0)

Shan
on Dec 9, 2012

Well done on the new website overhaul! I wouldn't mind seeing you venture into posting some of your tips as video tutorials. I think you'd be good at it and they'd probably be very popular.

Shan
on Dec 12, 2012

On this topic, I'd like to suggest to Paul considering doing audio book style versions of some of his articles. Andy Ihnatko starting doing something similar: http://5by5.tv/otn

As someone who works in the voice over field, he's definitely got the voice to do it. It would probably be quite popular. Just a suggestion.

Keep up the good work. The new site looks great!

SandmanX82
on Dec 9, 2012

Hey Paul, I e-mailed you this hoping it would make it into the mailbag, but I'll just post it here instead. I hope more people will take notice and upvote this problem so Microsoft takes notice and fixes it!

http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/sugg...

The Windows Phone mail client won't sync read messages correctly, regardless of what account you use with it. This same problem is also in their Hotmail/Outlook android app.

Kurisu Yamato
on Dec 9, 2012

The new design came as a shock when I awoke to it the other month, but it has grown on me.

To be honest, you have been an inspiration for me, and my own web projects; getting these little snippets into how and why you do things the way you do, combined with your overall knowledge sharing, really have helped me discover what I want to do.

Indeed, as an example, your in-depth coverage of Windows 8 helped me make my decision to accept and embrace it, a decision I do not regret in the slightest.

Bvandoninck
on Dec 9, 2012

I am curious as to why you went with Drupal and not Wordpress

pmbAustin
on Dec 10, 2012

Beyond pc-to-pc syncing (which had its own issues, so I can understand why it was dropped)... Live Mesh offered "remote desktop" across the internet... full remote desktop without having to be on the same network. I miss that functionality a lot, and wonder if that will be rolled into the new metro and/or desktop "Remote Desktop" clients. That was a killer feature, imho... mostly because I've never managed to get remote desktop working through my router (or more likely, my ISP blocks the port) correctly. Works great at home, but it's far less useful at home than when traveling.

Silversee
on Dec 10, 2012

Paul, take this for what it's worth:

I seriously appreciate the information you provide, and the advocacy for Windows users, though I do sometimes find your style to be a bit off-putting. I don't have a problem when you are critical of Microsoft, but sometimes when you disagree with a feature or product decision you can be very heavy handed in your criticism.

A recent example was your rather scathing (in my view) commentary on the Surface RT. This surprised me, as only a week or two before you spoke on one of the podcasts about the "devices" revolution and how simpler computing paradigms were the future, and how PC expertise would become increasingly niche. You amusingly compared PC usage to the early days of the automobile, when owners needed to be mechanics in order to successfully drive one.

I agree with you, which is why I was so surprised by your initial critical take on the product.

You are right that this product is not for PC power users, but it should be for nearly everyone else.

True story: I was dining alone at lunch the other day and had my Surface with me. My server was a college age woman who was curious about it. She said she wanted a tablet for school, but needed something more than an iPad for class. She had heard about Surface and loved the idea of a tablet with Office and the concept of the Touch Cover.

We talked for a bit, and I explained the differences between Surface RT and Surface Pro. At first she seemed concerned and a bit confused about the limitations, but then I explained how the Windows RT version was immune to normal Windows viruses, that it was impossible to be tricked into installing spyware, that the device could not become unstable over time because she inadvertently installed some poorly written device driver or bad software program. She totally lit up and said, "oh, that's so cool!"

I think the majority of Windows users are like this woman: they just want stuff to be easy, to work, and for their computing experience to be safe. They will give up some things to gain this (witness the iPad).

Clearly Microsoft cannot make this the lead selling point for Windows RT. But those of us who know something about Windows should help explain this to everyone.

I'm aware that Windows RT still has many rough edges and the experience still feels unfinished in some ways. But rather than Windows RT being the dead-end some are proclaiming, I think it's the future.

So much of the negativity and misunderstanding about this product seem due to it being evaluated against the iPad on one hand, or a full Windows laptop on the other. But the Surface RT is a category-busting device. It's a shame that more influential voices aren't focusing on helping users understand Microsoft's rationale behind some of the decisions made in Windows RT.

In any case, thanks for listening.

TheRomit
on Dec 10, 2012

Re: push button reset, isn't it possible to create your own reset point with recimg.exe and point to that "image" during reset? I am hoping that will work, because I did exactly that. Removed a bunch of OEM crapware and created a recimg.

Unless of course, that works the same way as Windows 7 backup.

wedgeski
on Dec 10, 2012

I continue to enjoy your site and its distinctive voice, and have no need to agree with everything you say to remain a fan.

aras
on Dec 10, 2012

"Subscribe to new comments" would be nice addition. Is that not part of Drupal commenting module?

kcarson97404
on Dec 10, 2012

Paul, the new site looks great. I really appreciate the new mobile version. It looks good and is much easier to read on my mobile devices. Keep up the good work.

MarkH
on Dec 10, 2012

As many before me have expressed: thanks for all you do, Paul, and for the awesome new site!

To add to the list of "what *I* wanna know is..." why does SkyDrive for Windows Phone 8 ask you for a username and password when it's just going to compare it to the MS account you used to setup the phone and then deny you access to everything if they don't match? That made for a humorous demo to my wife, "and look, Honey, you can get to all our stuff on our shared SkyDrive...oh...wait...no you can't." :-P

Seems like a wee bit of code and some observation of the "well duh principle" could have corrected that little faux pas.

Nakazul
on Dec 10, 2012

I hope I don't offend someone but I really love "the mail bag" posts. If they were to be made a little longer, I wouldn't mind at all. I know you write a lot of good stuff Paul and having the mail bag as a favourite might be some what offending. But still, just had to share that its lovely to read these posts.

TimE
on Dec 10, 2012

Love the new website - much, much faster to load. Easier on the eyes too. I also prefer to short blog type format. And as always, you're the must read source for all things Windows!

mlinde
on Dec 10, 2012

typo in intro: spotity instead of spotify. other than that, thanks!

pthurrott
on Dec 10, 2012

Thanks!

Typo reports are ALWAYS appreciated, and putting them in the Comments is the best way to report them. (Email is number two. Via Twitter is not on the list.)

Yeoné
on Dec 10, 2012

“rather be right then first.”
Enjoy you work, and your voice sounds GREAT.

sharpsone
on Dec 11, 2012

I don't think any of my comments have made the Supersite. I'm super sad, but life goes on. :) No matter what I plan to continue reading for Paul's unique insight on technology.

Thanks Paul

johnlavey
on Dec 11, 2012

Paul,

I am always amazed at the breadth of knowledge you possess of all things Microsoft. I look forward everyday to bringing up the Supersite to see what new information you are sharing with your readers. Sometimes the information is 'over my head', sometimes I have no need for the information, but most of the time I come away with USABLE information that makes my 'job' as a retired old man....and computer enthusiast.......better....more fun.....more interesting.

..and you publish on Sunday too. Nobody does that.

THANK YOU

John
East Bridgewater, MA

stephend
on Dec 12, 2012

For Mesh vs. SkyDrive, I loved my Mesh, but the transition to SkyDrive has been fairly painless. I'm still keeping my Mesh space full up in the desperate hope that Microsoft will give us 5gig of free extra SkyDrive space when Mesh is eventually phased out. I missed the great 20gig SkyDrive giveaway and I have been kicking myself ever since.

I did get a measly 3gig extra free when I bought my Surface RT (which I have absolutely loved since the second day I have had it btw).

Finally, for those missing PC-PC sync bypassing the cloud, and remote desktop control, LogMeIn has free solutions for both - Cubby gives you free unlimited PC-PC syncing provided you disable the cloud storage feature, and their free Remote desktop has been, in my opinion, the best one available for years.

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