Microsoft: Over 150,000 Apps in Windows Phone Store

Windows Phone 8 makes some big gains, but we won't ever see the numbers that really matter

Not sure why Microsoft isn’t shouting this one to the rooftops, but there are now over 150,000 apps in the Windows Store.

How do we know this? In a curiously worded blog post, Microsoft’s Todd Brix hints at the new figure.

“Over the last year we’ve certified and published over 75,000 new apps and games (more than doubling the catalog size),” Brix writes in a post to the Windows Phone Developer Blog. Take a number over 75,000, double it, and you get over 150,000 apps.

Why wasn’t that the title of this post?

Some other interesting figures from the post:

300,000. Microsoft has published over 300,000 app updates over the last year.

54. The average number of apps that each user downloads to their Windows Phone handset. (That seems crazy high to me.)

85. The percentage ofWindows Phone 8 who would choose Live Apps over those without Live capabilities. (Live apps surface info from the app on the tile.)

191. The number of markets in which users can get apps and games for Windows Phone 8.

95. The number of markets in which users can get apps and games for Windows Phone 7.8, a 5x improvement from the start of 2012.

75. The percentage of Windows Phone users who prefer carrier billing for on-device purchases.

40. The percentage increase in developer revenue month over month since the Windows Phone 8 SDK release.

Numbers are interesting, but of course the real numbers we all want but will never get from Microsoft include actual Windows Phone license sales and real world market share for 2012. Still, there’s little doubt that things are on the upswing since the release of Windows Phone 8. The only question is whether it’s enough.

But then, I wrote about that topic a few weeks back, of course.

Discuss this Article 18

nick.karasev
on Dec 27, 2012

As the saying goes, it doesn't matter how many apps are out there. What matters is if any of the important ones are on the platform.

Spotify? Pandora? Instagram? YouTube? Gmail? True, you can always point out that most, if not all, of these apps have either a third-party implementations (that sometimes is better than the originals) or a decent alternative. Who needs Spotify when we have Xbox Music Pass?

Which leads to a second and far more insidious category of missing apps. The daily routine apps. Things that are too small and individual to hit radar screens of major blogs yet make our life so much more convenient. For example, Chipotle has an ordering app for iPhone, but not Windows Phone. Todoist, Asana, Remember The Milk have native apps for iPhone but not Windows Phone. And the list goes on and on. The result is that somebody with a Windows Phone handset has to constantly accept a less than optimal experience of a mobile site or end up losing a given functionality on the phone altogether. And now that the majority of mobile apps target both iOS and Android, Windows Phone being left out feels that much more painful.

I'm not sure what Microsoft marketing types are up to. If I were them, I would aggressively pursue all top mobile app makers, along with major brands, to have their Windows Phone version done, similar to what Nokia is doing. Call up CEOs, flatter them, dine them at a fancy restaurants, take out to a golf or a mountain bike, threaten them at gunpoint for Pete's sake!.. Do something! I'm pretty sure paying Pandora or Instagram to keep a freelancer or two in Eastern Europe to develop and maintain Windows Phone version of the service is far less expensive than buying useless TV spots nobody watches.

Stop smearing Google (even if you are right) and work out a deal with them to get proper access to YouTube, Gmail, and Voice, or better yet have them build apps for their services. Call it "Grand Bargain". Kiss Larry Page's ass if required: it's a relatively small ass, not much kissing is needed. I know quite a few people who abandoned Windows Phone or never got one because of the lack of support for Google stuff. At the very least, walk your distance. Let Google sweat a bit about spinning their "do no evil" mantra.

Finally, I don't understand why it took Microsoft three years to kick off AppCampus that gives people money to build interesting apps exclusive to the platform. If app adoption drives the platform, at $25-$50K per developer, you can build a whole suit of exclusives. And there bound to be gems found!

But this is besides the point. The big boys at Microsoft surely know what they are doing. They must have a plan...

MediaCastleX
on Dec 27, 2012

"54: The average number of apps that each user downloads to their Windows Phone handset. (That seems crazy high to me.)

Its pretty damn close, I am maxing my 8GB Lumia 710 with mostly apps...most I'm certain I could live without but I feel a need for them strangely. =s

king
on Dec 27, 2012

Your logic is flawed. If 75,000 MORE than doubled the app count then there were less than 75000 to begin with. If there were 60000 on Jan 1, 75000 more than doubles that catalog but doesn't put it at 150k. That said, its probably really close to 150k

Jazzism
on Dec 27, 2012

Whats limiting more development is the apparent requirement of running Windows 8 to develop Windows 8 mobile apps. Likely no huge jump in apps will be showing up for a couple months when people decide if it's worth to upgrade or not. The general public aren't keen to the latest and greatest in OS with such a bad track record Windows has.

nick.karasev
on Dec 28, 2012

My company builds apps for Windows Phone, among other things. We are not targeting Windows Phone 8 now, nor will we be any time soon. Why, you might ask? Windows Phone 8 runs WP7 apps perfectly fine, and WP7 is where the install base, however small, is. Our real-time analytics shows 60-70% of all Windows Phone users still running older versions of the OS. Until this is reversed, there is absolutely no impetus in porting existing applications to what is effectively a new platform and working out the kinks.

I think we will go with Windows 8 sooner than anything targeting Windows Phone 8, and I will be surprised if this attitude is limited just to us.

And if you score the Windows Phone technical and otherwise blogs, you will see quite a lot of frustration from people about how this whole transition has been handled by Microsoft. There is precious little good will remaining, and I personally don't see much excitement for either the mobile or desktop platforms around me. Windows Phone 7 generated far more enthusiasm when released, and we all now how that turned out.

Alex Alexzander
on Dec 28, 2012

Nick, I can tell you first hand as someone with a Lumia 920 I specifically look for Win8 support. I have to disagree that Win8 phones run Win7 apps just fine. I see battery drain and all manner of weirdness on Win7 apps on Win8. Runtastic for example, the screen fails to turn itself off during a run. Until recently posting a run to facebook was broken. People will tell you that GPS was way off too. All of this was fine in win7 on the Lumia 900. Broken on the 920.

What are people buying today and in the future? Win8. Get with the program, bud... The first thing I do when I look at an app these days is scroll through looking for even a single one-star. And if I find it and that person states they are on Win8, I will believe them over you and not even give that app a chance.

The flipside to that is I read the Windows sites and apps that are updated to win8, well I run to check those out. Your percentages are going to do nothing but tilt in favor of the win8 and up community as it is the present and the future. Stop living in the past. As even Steve Jobs has mentioned many times. Go where the puck will be, not where it has been.

meelahi
on Dec 27, 2012

Number of supported markets is higher for WP8 than WP7.8. That is unfortunate given that many market is actually more suitable for WP7.8 devices given their lower price point.

Sen
on Dec 28, 2012

Here's a scenario. There were 50,000 apps end of 2011. They added 75,000 apps in 2012. Now there are 125,000 apps. Versus 50,000 apps, 125,000 is surely more than double. Looking at some data (http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/news/item/14316_Windows_Marketplace_pass...) there were indeed ~52k apps in Dec 2011. The correct number, then, is ~130,000, not 150,000. I am sure they will make a separate blog post when it does hit 150K.

The app mania is well underway. 54 apps sounds crazy to me as well, but not as insane as Apple's "more than 100 apps per user" from their iPhone 5 keynote - that just makes me question our collective sanity. Here's hoping the app fad recedes.

Maelstrom
on Dec 29, 2012

Counting the native apps, I've installed over one hundred apps and, except for a few ones (mostly some pre-installed OEM apps like HTC Watch), I use most of them weekly if not daily. And I don't even feel I've an extensive collection as I rely heavily on IE and on Fuse (one great RSS reader) instead of individual apps for every information source I read such as the Supersite. In fact, when I can benefit nicely from a native feature like with the social feed, I don't use a dedicated app for Facebook and such. Still, one may have many apps installed for very practical reasons and not necessarily because s/he's installed a truckload of worthless stuff over time. I know I don't because I apply the same logic as with a PC, installing only the essential stuff while staying far from the superfluous.

lorinkundert
on Dec 28, 2012

Considering that everywhere you look, no one is buying into Windows 8, Microsoft should remain silent. For the fanboys, don't waste your time arguing, there is far too much data that will just prove you wrong.

nick.karasev
on Dec 28, 2012

There is also a theory that nobody's buying Windows 8 not because it is bad or somehow deficient, but because there are very few devices on the market that are worth buying (according to the NPD, supply chain for PC is still clogged with Windows 7 orders). Simple check: go to the Microsoft own store and see how many Windows 8 targeting devices you will find there?

The situation is made even worse when you consider a simple tablet is all a vast majority of people require for their daily computing needs. Apple, Amazon, and Google have very mature and well-rounded offerings that start at $199. So, in the economic times when both the US and Europe are struggling, try justifying a much higher pricing points of Windows 8 devices. Office? Legacy apps? Really?

The consumer mindshare has already moved past Microsoft in a big way. It doesn't register there. And Windows RT is singularly unsuitable for businesses with their thousands of legacy enterprise applications built on .NET, VB, and MFC. Hence, they have neither the mass market, nor their traditional enterprise market to drive the adoption.

But again, I'm sure big boys at Microsoft have a plan. The tools division is adding Objective-C support to Visual Studio 2012 SP1 as we speak.

timiteh
on Dec 28, 2012

Perhaps they are not shouting about it because they are more concerned about Windows 8 apps for now. Or perhaps because it does not help them sell as many Windows Phone 8 devices as they expect. >:-)

MitchBomcanhao
on Dec 28, 2012

Let's say the store had 50k apps. Add 75k. You've more than doubled, but haven't reached 150k.

Why is everyone reporting this with such a flawed logic?

daughtkom
on Dec 28, 2012

I love my Lumia 920, but your math is wrong. If 75000 "more than doubles" the number of apps, then they previously had less than 75000 apps, making the total likely less than 150000 now, or at least not verifiably more.

satkinsn
on Dec 28, 2012

nick.karasev wrote, in part:

"The situation is made even worse when you consider a simple tablet is all a vast majority of people require for their daily computing needs. Apple, Amazon, and Google have very mature and well-rounded offerings that start at $199."

Not sure I'd put Apple in the pile, but your point is a good one. I have no idea why Microsoft hasn't decided to compete on price. A $499 RT tablet is a very bad idea; a $199 one is an indulgence worth considering.

TheRayan
on Dec 28, 2012

RSA Software Token SecurID is now avaiable form Windows Phone Store!
This was my big hold off in company. I had to bring company computer everywere with me. Now i can get any PC with internet access and use my Citrix session.
This is big!

hwangeruk
on Dec 30, 2012

@satkinsn
I don't think price is the issue for work computing.
An RT tablet looks fine pricewise against a Notebook.

For consumers there is the iPad, and lower priced Android tablets. Whether MS need to get that low (or expect OEMs to do that) remains to be seen.

sharpsone
on Jan 2, 2013

There's more to a phone eco-system than simple apps. The whole app store approach is like a Christmas regift of Free-ware to the masses. Sure the app stores are clean and easy to navigate without ads flashing in your face, but ultimately most of the apps are piss poor. This can be said about every eco-system out there. When oh when will Jolly old HTML 5 kill the native app store.

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