IPhone 5C pre-orders not going well in the UK. Only a tenth of previous models.
I have a Nokia Lumia 620 and its a great phone that I got PAYG for £120 / $198.92. I have tried Android and IPhones and don't feel I am using anything too inferior. The 520 is a bargain and Nokia has a nice range now, with a sensible numbering system any one can follow.
Not sure if this will get filtered out as spam, but Tiger Direct has a Nokia 520 for just $55 after rebate. What a steal!
Shame it's 205$ here in Germany :/
you may be looking at an unlocked model. these $99 prices are for a carrier-locked model. I think the international unlocked 520 price is about $200.
Now that Microsoft Points has been folded into Windows Phone 8's Microsoft Account, you can also buy pre-paid Xbox cards to pay for the apps. Great for the security conscious or parents who want limits on kids' app spending.
"And you can also enjoy a completely Apple-less experience, which is good for your soul, and a nearly-completely Google-free experience, which is good for your heart."
I finmd myself tending to agree with paebin2s and Josh above. When I first started following your writings it was to be informed and kept up to date with Windows related matters but I am becoming somewhat disappointed with the "anti-Google"/"Anti-Apple" tenor of recent articles. I accept that you also criticise Microsoft when you deem it necessary but it reduces your credibility ( at least in my eyes) when you leave yourself open this type of accusation.
You may well be absolutely right about the Lumia 520 and Windows Phone in general - I am seriously thinking of getting one myself - but I would like to see a focus on pointing out what is good about Windows/Microsoft rather than doing down the competition.
Please take this comment in the spirit of constructive observation - I enjoy your articles - and not as a personal criticism.
I use my current AT&T LTE Android phone's WiFi hotspot daily, often as a means of connecting my Latitude 10 tablet to my work VPN. Given the 520 has no LTE support, would you still recommend it for someone like me?
While the 520 is a great bargain it's unfortunately only good if you can use a GSM carrier (ATT or TMo) because there is no Sprint or Verizon version. I do agree that it is the best bargain if you need it. As for the App discussion it is still missing a lot of the third party (commercial apps) like travel, hotel, finance (Credit Unions/Banks/Brokerages), sports (They don't have any for my sports teams - NFL, Baseball, Hockey), Shopping (NewEgg, Groceries, etc). So for me and lots of people like me Windows Phone will continue to be a curiosity as those areas are apps that I use daily and really don't want to do without. While Paul and MS tend to talk about the Top 50/100 they are working to close the gap there is still a huge gap that may never be filled (unless WP gets up to 10% plus)
I just purchased a 520. Nice phone except for the vibration sense on the bottom 3 buttons. I hate this and it cannot be turned off. Going back to using my Apple 3GS. At least Apple is smart enough not to add a feature like this that cannot be control by the user!
I just don't understand why anybody would by an iPhone over a Lumia 520. Looking at a side by side comparison makes it painfully clear that the Lumia is light years ahead of Apple's corporate soul-sucking garbage.
I mean, why? Why do people make such horrible purchasing decisions? Two words: Brainwashed. Hipsters.
It is really commendable on Nokia's part to release sub 100$ smart phone!
Paul, where can I get shells for cheap?
I just sold my Iphone 4S and am using the 520 until the Note 3 releases on AT&T.
From my short experience:
Battery life is excellent (12 hours or longer), screen is not HD but is sharp and vibrant, love the tones especially the ringer and alarms, decent selection of apps (there are a couple I need that are not available - banking, travel, credit card apps, certain games), Nokia apps are awesome, unit feels solid, has a nice feel to the phone, but....
Unit has very sharp edges, Windows Phone 8's choice of browsers is very poor and IE is slow and does not load all pages properly, the iOS keyboard is superior. I guess my main problems are with WP8 and not the device.
Paul I agree that WP8 is a great mobile OS but saying it is superior is a bit of a stretch. I think it is the Limbo between Apple's Walled Garden and Android's Open Paradise. All three have their pros and cons. None are better than the other but MS needs to continue to push developers to port their apps because there is still a lot of work that needs to be done. Also when are users going to be able to create their own hubs, change their background colors (white and black only), accent colors are too few, keyboards, etc etc?
I purchased the Lumia 520 Gophone at the end of last month. I do not play games on the phone and I couldn't care less about the camera functions. I wanted to try out a windows phone to start with. I checked my then current Gophone plan and saw the 520. It was love at first sight because the phone is perfect for a starter. The AT&T store was happy to sell me the phone which ended up at $107 something including tax. I already had the unlimited phone plan, so dropping $10 a month for 2 GB data is painless. I should add; I have a Galaxy Tab data account and dropped that.
I've been ready to try wp8 and it was the right price to do so. My phone works well, I'm happy with the OS, and I can do what I want. Verizon CSR told me they only provide service to Verizon branded phones way back, so they have been ignored since. I had my other Gophone in my pocket, so we put the 16 GB card in to start with and all is well. I use W8 at home and when I plugged my phone into the USB; I ended up with the right app installed on the computer. Skydrive means my content is available on the phone along with OneNote. The compatible MS things are naturally added when you sign in with Microsoft Account.
The Galaxy Tab I have is old Android, but works well. The tablet will be replaced by Surface RT/Surface 2 very soon and I won't look back. Android has been disconcerting to me for a while getting to know all the flavors, so to speak. I must say here: The best Operating System to use, is the OS that you use and like. The same saying goes with hardware and programs. I really like the way WP8 runs on this bargain-basement piece of hardware. The Circle-of-Life will be complete when I replace the Android tablet. I had to search for Microsoft apps for Android to be able to use remote documents, etc. I had to sign in for all my skydrive to show up instantly. The phone came with ESPN Hub and I installed ESPN Sports Center for my sports obviously. I finished reading a book just today in my Kindle app for wp8. I do wish I could get Tweet Castor that I used on Android, but there is TweetDeck on my main computer anyway. The People app is ok for keeping up with Facebook and Twitter if I must use my phone for that. Android is on the way out of my household.
I'll try something novel with my Android tablet like installing Ubuntu on it. My daughter is completely fed-up with JellyBean, so I might give the old Tab to her. I'm not finding drawbacks using wp8 on my phone at all. I'll probably purchase a more expensive wp8 phone to get more features. The only drawback the Lumia 520 has for me is battery life. The phone is nearly charge every day to use in a normal fashion. The phone itself does start conversations when I use it. I was checking out at a local grocery store and "our" team was playing football. The checkout person mentioned our team and I whipped out the phone. He was impressed by the cheapest wp8 phone on the market. I'll be staying with Windows Phone because I like it.
T-Mobile has a $30 pre-paid plan that is only available on-line. I assume the sim that comes with the 521 will work with that plan. If you go to T-Mobile.com and start the process to set-up a pre-pay plan you'll find it. They no longer advertise this plan, but it is still available. It offers 100mins and limited texts, but has 'unlimited' data (5GB then they slow you down). The plan is only open to new T-Mo customers. It is a great deal for an extra phone, or for a Verizon customer ( like me), looking to check out the alternatives due to lack of decent hardware on VZW (use your VZW phone to tether if you find yourself somewhere with bad service). This plan works fine with the 521. I transferred the sim from my Nexus 4 & the 521 worked right away. No issues with the maps or navigation either.
I got the 521 yesterday. I am a geek who loves new toys. I already have an iPhone 5, Nexus 4 and Droid DNA (N4 & 521 will share the T-Mo sim). I have a couple tablets as well. I had a Surface RT for a while, but sold it a couple months ago. I use Windows 8 on my HTPC and in bootcamp on my MacBook. So far I like the 521. It is a better experience than the Surface RT. I really enjoy XBox music and I am glad I kept my paid subscription when I sold the Surface. I very much wish the other apps were better on WP8. Even the podcasts aren't quite as good as other platforms (no streaming option in the built-in solution, and Podcasts won't find everything I watch/listen to.) my experience with most apps has been that way, not quite as good as their counter-parts (Lastpass, Zite, Unified Remote...and a few others). Still, I found a Google Voice solution (required to use the phone as a phone) I think.
Selling the 520/521 so cheap is brilliant. I hope it works. More users means better apps. Better apps will bring more users. I look forward to spending more time with the phone.
Anyone know if a colored 520 cover will fit the 521?
It cracks me up when people say no apps. I remember 6 years ago all the iPhone users saying the same about Google. Now that's all I hear about Windows phones. Just like when the iPhone came out it was called a dumb phone with apps and the apps they had was just silly worthless apps now the iPhone and android platforms are number one across the country. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will the amount of apps people feel they need to have for the Windows store, but just as android and iPhone store grew so will the Windows store patience people.
What cracks me up is how surprised and appalled WP8 users act when someone says there are no apps when it is so obviously true. Yes, the Windows Marketplace has made some inroads where the top 50/100 are concerned, but there are thousands of apps not there yet that people rely on every day. That is not changing anytime soon, which is why most people say they like the platform but the app selection holds them back. Android suffered from this too, but they had a built in audience as the only iPhone alternative at the time. Plus they had multiple players pushing them before Samsung emerged from the pack. Nokia is the lone wolf and going it alone is not likely to get it done. Heck, I visited 2 AT&T stores just this week to check out the Lumia 925 and they did not even have a single Windows Phone on display.
WP8 may very well be the better platform and the Lumia line produces some really nice hardware, but that doesn't matter. Betamax was better too, and look how that worked out.
Can I access my memory stick from my lumia 520 via cable that I got?
My Lumia 520 just came in the mail on Wednesday, and I got it set up last night. It's one of the AT&T GoPhone packages, but I was able to run a Straight Talk AT&T SIM in it and get everything working well once I put in the Internet and MMS settings. As for the phone itself, it's a steal at $99. For starters, it's a Nokia, which means it's built well, and unlike their old Symbian phones, it's not kneecapped by outdated software kludged to work on modern devices. WP8 just works. I never got 20 minutes with a Symbian or Android device without some glitch. This Lumia is not glitching, plus it's faster on a dual-core than a lot of Androids are on a quad. Very impressed.
Tiger Direct has the 520 for $89.99 & free shipping today. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp...
I've seen this posted elsewhere with other models but on the 520 I picked up to test with before switching to WP8 the windows weekly podcast hd video starts stuttering a portion through the podcast and gets worse up until the end. It always starts fine. Any fix that I'm missing?
I'm seriously thinking about this phone. Paul mentioned the Podcasts app. Can I import my existing podcasts from an .ompl file. that would be key for me. if I can do this....i'm gonna buy one this week.
Be aware that you can only listen to podcasts at normal speed. The same is true of Audible. I like to listen to these things at double speed. This was possible on the very first iPod Touch. It is also possible in recent versions of Android. I do not understand why it isn't possible on WP8 devices and I do not know if it ever will be.
You can buy either a Nokia 520 or a 521 for the same price ($99) at Microsoft stores. Through October 17, if you ask for a demo of OneNote (in my case this consisted of showing me that I can write on a Surface with my finger, OneNote will recognize my handwriting and turn it into text), you will be give a coupon that is good for $25 off for any purchase or $75 or more at a Microsoft Store. In California, you will be charged sales tax on the full $99 price. The coupon is valid through November 4.
I purchased a 520 on Saturday but am thinking of returning it because you can only play podcasts and Audible at normal speed. I prefer listening at double speed.
The Here app doesn't be able to find the REI store in Tustin. When I search for "REI Tustin," the closest match I get is the old location in Santa Ana. REI closed that store three years ago when they opened the Tustin store. How often does the Here app data get updated?
Maybe if Microsoft stopped the Scroogle ads they could get Google to write a Google Maps app for WP8. You can, of course, use the web browser to go to maps.google.com , that that's less convenient.
Just a note: Tiger Direct has the phone for $89. I'm considering picking one up to replace my old iPod Touch. Does anyone know how well it plays with iTunes?
I use a Lumia 521 and it really is an awesome little phone for the price. Considering the $150 I paid for it, the only drawback that I have run into is the limited internal storage of 8gb. Of course, I have a micro SD card in there, but you cannot load apps onto the card. So I'm always juggling which apps I want and don't want, because I'm always near the storage limit. I wish you could install apps onto the SD card.
I love my Lumia 620 and was planning on using it as my main media player just like you claim to do with the 520.
However the problem of constantly getting duplicated, triplicated etc. versions of each song makes it unusable as a media player. The same thing also happens with photos and videos. The problem seems to relate to media on the SD card only.
I have reported this to Microsoft and Nokia together with countless other users. I have updated to Amber and the latest WP8 version (GDR2). I have reformatted the SD card and tried lots of things that have been suggested in various forums but nothing seems to help.
I fail to understand how everyone can just live with this, and would like to know how you get around it Paul
Paul, I bought one of these puppies and 64MB SD for my son's Christmas present. I'm preparing it for him and noticed a VERY odd quirk: out of the box, with the SIM card in (I do not have a data plan, I'm just using the SIM card to activate features like Navigation), the phone acts as if there is NO SIM card in the phone. If I shut down, remove battery, remove and re-insert SIM card, then restart the phone, voila! The SIM card is recognized and Navigation works. Only one problem, the date/time is set to March 6, 2013 at about 9pm. If I then go set Date/Tim to manual, then correct it, then the SIM card immediately disappears to the phone. The only way to get back SIM access is to pull battery, remove and re-insert SIM card, and LEAVE date/time set to Auto, which sets it back to March 6th. Can you (or anyone else on here) duplicate this behavior?
It seems I have to choose between correct date/time or SIM-enabled features.
Currently on sale at Microsoft Store for 59 bucks.
Any idea if and how I can get google chat working on this. Recently bought one and an excellent phone if I only I can get google chat working for free internet calls.
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