Tim Cook's Windows Phone Mention: Respect or Subterfuge?

In case you missed the news, Apple yesterday announced that it made a gajillion dollars while racking up sales of a bajillion devices of various kinds. Doesn't sound familiar? OK,look here. Back? Good, let's continue.

When giant publicly-held corporations like Apple announce their quarterly earnings, they generally hold a related conference call for financial analysts and press. But anyone can listen in, and now you can too, after the fact: The conference call recording is available now on Apple's Investor Relations page.

There was a lot of interesting information on that call regarding the iPhone, the iPad, the Mac, the iPod, and even the Apple TV, which Apple CEO Tim Cook admitted was, yes, still a hobby. But I'm particularly taken by a very curious mention of Windows Phone on that call, also by Mr. Cook. Why did he do that?

The mention comes at 57:18 in the recording. It came in response to a question about Android and whether the smartphone market was a "two-horse race". Here's what he says:

"I wouldn't say it's a two-horse race. There's a horse in Redmond that always suits up and always runs, and will keep running. And there's other players that we can never count out. And so what we focus on is innovating and making the world's best products. And we'll just keep on doing that and in some part just ignore how many horses there are. And we just want stay ahead and be the lead one."

Put in context, he was saying earlier that the smartphone market is not like that for PCs, where the Mac, despite huge quarterly gains, has never escaped single digit market share. (Yes, he admitted this.) And the "horse" thing came from the questioner, so he was framing the answer around that. 

But Windows Phone has, at best, 1.5 percent market share right now, while both Android and the iPhone are slicing up 90+ percent of the market between them. Suggesting that this market is somehow a three-horse race--between Android, iPhone, and Windows Phone--is a bit of a stretch. And that's even when you factor in perhaps overly-rosy predictions for Windows Phone sales this year and beyond by analysts from IDC, Gartner, and elsewhere. This has never materialized. We'll see if it does.

I just don't understand why he'd mention this. Does he know something we don't? Or is this similar to what Microsoft used to do with the Mac, mentioning its much tinier competitor as if it were bigger than it was in an effort to defend its own overly-aggressive behavior? I really don't know. I just can't believe he mentioned Microsoft there.

As for the "other players"--RIM Blackberry, webOS, etc.--I think we all know they're on the way down. Mentioning them is equally curious, especially when he specifically called out Windows Phone previous to that sentence. The smart phone market is indeed a three-horse race, but it's between Android, iPhone, and "other."

So. why did Tim Cook even mention that Microsoft was a competitor in this market?

Discuss this Article 15

yoshipod (not verified)
on Jan 25, 2012
Only a fool would ignore what Microsoft is doing. They may not win, or even place or show, but you have to acknowledge that when they enter a market, they can certainly put their weight behind it. Its a much better response than what Balmer has done in the past, basically ignoring Apple and saying they don't matter.
Ocean
on Jan 25, 2012
Tim doesn't strike me as the trivial or the trite type. I think he meant it. The Apple team was probably as taken by the design of MS new mobile OS as Apple and other tech bloggers have been and he recognizes that they have the muscle to make it a competitive race. I'd like to see iOS 'steal' a few things from Windows Phone 7, myself.
davepermen
on Jan 25, 2012
It sounds kinda as he does not talk just about competition, but about innovation competition. and there, sure much more than android is around. wp7, webOS are great innovative os', ignoring them would be an error.
RaffaXO
on Jan 25, 2012
Microsoft was hobbled by the expired anti-trust agreement. It will be a two horse race: Apple and Windows. You cannot secure the future by coping! Both Apple and Microsoft will protect their intellectural property. Kodak was the dominate company in their business. Their non-aggressive business practices has lead to their bankruptcy; they never saw their competitors. Darwin's rules also applies to business.
neosar
on Jan 25, 2012
Tim strikes me as a very pragmatic guy. Unlike Steve, who had a tendancy to blurt out something offensive without thinking about it (as correct as it sometimes was), he doesn't seem like the type to say something without thinking first. I think it would be foolish to disregard Windows Phone because, really, MS is the first company to do something truly innovative in this space since the original iPhone was released. Google just looks at what everyone else is doing and says "Let's do THAT". They did it with the original blackberry-esque interface of early Android builds, and with the blatant iPhone ripoff of the production build, and they're doing it again with the new "People" app in ICS. Palm did a couple clever things with the whole "card interface" in WebOS, but they were really just trying to copy the success of the iPhone. RIM is just gonna die a slow death. I honestly think the engineers at Apple probably look at Windows Phone as a potential threat because they've done something special, and they have the muscle to make it a success with time (which is what I think he meant by the always running and will keep running comment). They struck a balance between the chaotic ecosystem of Android as well as the carefully curated and (now) mature ecosystem of iOS, and they put a killer interface on top of it. I don't think Tim would dare to underestimate the threat there.
hsutton
on Jan 25, 2012
First, I think Tim is VERY much different than Steve when blurting out his view point on the competition. Second, and the biggest in my opinion. I think Tim would be making the same mistake that Ballmer made in 1997 when the iPhone first came out. Ballmer famously said that the iPhone 'had no chance'. Would get 2 or 3% at most. WOW!!!!!!! How about now in 2012. Ignoring the potential of Windows Phone would be a serious mistake. Yep, its low now. Anyone would be a fool to think that MS doesn't have something and that it won't claim iPhone numbers in the future. Nope, no one knows the furture of Windows Phone, nor did ANYONE know that the iPhone would be where it is today. That goes for Android too. So why did Tim even mention Microsoft? I believe that he sees the potential of Windows Phone in the Microsoft ecosystem. I believe that he sees this because it's the job of CEOs to see 3 and 5 years into the future. Job's was a visionary, but the ( everybody else creates crap view ) got in the way saying things like what Tim Cook said. Yep, Ballmer can be just as arrogant against Apple as Steve does against Microsoft. But, from the little I've seen from Tim Cook, he strikes me as having ice cold patience like Bill Gates. Should be an interesting time in Tech for the next two or three years. I love it!!!
johnbaxter
on Jan 25, 2012
I just want to see a (non-CGI) video of a horse suiting up. --John
roncerr
on Jan 25, 2012
"So; why did Tim Cook even mention that Microsoft was a competitor in this market?" Because it is, and for the reasons he stated.
JeffinLondon
on Jan 26, 2012
Another diversion.... Tim's busy fending off the US DOJ in anti-trust review. He has to pump up real and potential competitors to give the perceprion of choice.
JayZeee74
on Jan 26, 2012
@Harvey I believe you mean 2007. However it is entirely possible that I have lost a decade in there along the way ;) Yeah Ballamer looks like a fool in that classic video where he laughed at the iPhone. Tim Cook seems like a reserved gentle guy who is not going to take anything to chance. I personally believe it's just that. He is assesseng the entire battlefield. For better or worse, that includes Windows Phone Phone 7 SP2.5 Enterprise Consumer Edition, with Platinum licensing in the Enterprise silo of available licenses.
Mustang17
on Jan 26, 2012
CJayzee you missed out a 'phone' when refering to the iphone. Surely in context of your posting it would be the iphone phone with iOS 5 In the world of tech, gibberish is never far away..
jagosilver
on Jan 26, 2012
I must have misread/misheard but for some reason I thought the question asked was about tablets? So I assumed that Cook was referring to all the Win8 tablets that will doubtless be appearing this/next year...?
glenn.gilbert@b...
on Jan 26, 2012
Microsoft ignored the competition for their original phone OS and are now paying the price. They've paid billions for this very basic business lesson. Tim Cook is very clearly aware of the competition, so I suppose it's his way of thanking Monkey Boy Ballmer for this valuable business lesson. Tim cook also uses considerably less bluster and FUD than is associated with Monkey Boy's missives. What's that Steve... keep chanting for developers?!? Hmm, that'll build you a real fine App Store.
ddacey
on Jan 26, 2012
Whether Windows Phone was/is good bad or indifferent, I think this is simply a smart man who knows Microsoft have endless bucket loads of cash to pour into any market they want a piece of. You would be silly to dismiss a competitor that can do that.
dnease
on Jan 27, 2012
Yes, Appple makes scads of money, and yes, they make some "insanely great" products (I love my iPad!). But Microsoft is not to be taken lightly. They are attempting something that could be a came changer. When Windows 8 comes out (and a corresponding release of Windows Phone 8), for the first time you'll be able to go to your PC, your tablet, your phone, your gaming console, your server... and see the same UI. Get a Metro app that you love for your phone, then get it for your tablet and your PC too. Throw in Azure cloud services, and everything works together seamlessly. In theory, anyway. There will be limitations of course, but the promise of what's possible is very intriguing. Now, whether Microsoft can pull it off is another question, and time will tell. But if I were Apple (or Google), I'd be watching Redmond very closely right now.

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