Windows Phone 8 Tip: Enjoy Podcasts on the Go

Podcast support in Windows Phone 8 is, well, different than it used to be

While Windows Phone 8 is the only Microsoft platform to formally support podcasts, things have changed a bit since Windows Phone 7.x. And as you’re about to discover, where Microsoft giveth, Microsoft also taketh away.

If you’re a fan of podcasts—I participate in two every week, by the way, What The Tech with Andrew Zarian and Windows Weekly with Leo Laporte and Mary Jo Foley—you’ll be understandably confused by how this Internet content can be consumed by Windows Phone 8. In Windows Phone 7.x, things were easy. You could subscribe to podcasts using the Zune PC software and sync the content to your devices for on-the-go usage. Or, with Windows Phone 7.5, you could access podcasts over the air … if you lived in the United States.

In Windows Phone 8, well. Things are different.

You can still access podcasts directly from the device, and the article Windows Phone Tip: Access Podcasts Over the Air still very much applies to Windows Phone 8. In fact, it works identically. (Note; I originally wrote that over-the-air podcasts support had been opened up to far more markets with Windows Phone 8, but that is apparently not the case.)

What you can’t do is subscribe to podcasts with Zune and then sync that content to a Windows Phone 8 handset. Zune doesn’t “see” these newer devices and thus can’t sync.

There’s a sort-of workaround here that I don’t recommend. Because Zune saves podcasts to a Podcasts library, the new Windows Phone desktop application can actually find them when it’s configured to “sync music, videos, and more from Windows Libraries.” The problem is that the Windows Phone application doesn’t understand podcasts as podcasts; it lumps them in with music.

This approach isn’t ideal, and some podcasts don’t appear correctly in the Windows Phone application. (The “Unknown artist” you can see in the shot above is a podcast, for example.) But the podcasts I’ve synced this way do show up in Podcasts on Windows Phone 8, not in Music. So it does work.

But there is a better solution. And if you’re a Windows Phone user, chances are you may not like it. But bear with me: This is in fact the best way to access the widest possible podcast selection using Windows Phone. (And the preferred way if over-the-air isn’t an option for you.)

You need to use iTunes.

I know, it sounds crazy. But when you subscribe to podcasts in iTunes, you get access to a much bigger and more frequently updated podcast library than what Microsoft offers. And then you can configure that Windows Phone application to “sync music, videos, and more from iTunes,” instead of libraries. And when you do, voila, you get native access to the podcasts to which you subscribe.

Windows Weekly on Windows Phone 8, synced through iTunes:

I know, I know. You hate iTunes. I do too, it’s terrible. I get it. But this really does work, and if you can’t get what you need over the air, it’s pretty much the best choice.

Unless of course you’re using Windows RT: Like all external desktop applications, iTunes isn’t compatible, sorry. (Neither is Zune, for that matter.)

Update: I’m embarrassed that I forgot to mention a fourth option. You can also use third party podcast apps on the phone. One I’ve used in the past is SlapDash Podcasts. There’s a Windows 8/Metro version available as well, and it stores your podcast subscriptions in the cloud. Thanks to Andy H. for the tip.

Discuss this Article 16

Brent (not verified)
on Nov 8, 2012

Ugh, I live and die by podcasts and podcast over-the-air support had a LOT to do with why I went Zune/WP7.... You must have asked about this. Does MSFT have a long term plan to offer podcast support for WP8? Even a separate app a la Apple Podcasts would do. But I'd rather see it integrated. @cocolicius

pthurrott
on Nov 8, 2012

Well, podcast support is built-in on the phone. The holes are in Windows 8 and Xbox 360. Hopefully this is temporary.

murphdog456
on Nov 9, 2012

I'm also a huge podcast fan. Thanks for the tip I just downloaded ITunes on my win8 laptop to get use to it. I'm just waiting to get my new htc8x hopefully my local att will have them in tomorrow. It seems weird to me that support for zune software would get worse. But what do I know. I'm currently using an htc titan running mango and it works so smooth with the zune software. I'm excited for win phone8 but things should improve in all areas or at least be as good as it was. I never really liked I tunes years ago which is why I switched to the zune software and loved it. Well I'm sure they had a lot of upgrades to the ITunes software since then. I've been trying to get use to xbox music but honestly I think zune software is better. Trying to manage my music collection and/or create a playlist is painfull but I'll keep trying.

Sanjay Shetty (not verified)
on Nov 9, 2012

When listening to a podcast the music app seems to be able to remember the exact location if you stop mid-way while listening to the audio.

I would like for it to do the same for audio files I listen to, for e.g. If I'm listening to a lecture etc. however, it only remembers place where I stopped listening for podcasts not other audio files... any suggestions on what to do?

rwburnham
on Dec 7, 2012

Take the audio files in question and put them in a folder in the Podcast folder. Open the properties of the file, then go to the Details tab. Change the genre to "Podcast" and make sure the album and title sections have something in them, like "LVCC" and "Biology 101 Lecture 4." They should sync into the Podcast section and behave like regular podcasts, including knowing where you stopped the file. I do this all the time for personal audio files and it works.

nethound
on Nov 9, 2012

I'm really disappointed with Xbox music on Win 8, hope it is better on the phone. As mentioned above, the Zune software seems to work so much better. And while I'm sure Xbox music will improve, I'm sure it will also continue to shove me towards streaming music and their music service rather than let me easily play my own stuff.

Can't anyone just be happy that I bought their product without using it as an opportunity to keep trying to sell me more stuff?

Bob12Dozen
on Nov 10, 2012

I won't ever use iTunes again, as I have no trouble getting your WW podcast over the air. I only watch two podcasts; WW, and Security Now!, and my current device of choice for both of these is ROKU. It's portable enough to suit me, as I almost always have access to the web and a TV wherever I go.

TimG
on Nov 11, 2012

I was almost going to order the Lumia 920 but this is a real show-stopper for me. I listen to a lot of podcasts and there's no way I can switch to a new platform until there's a decent podcast app with direct OTA synching, updating and downloading, equivalent to DoggCatcher on Android or InstaCast on iOS. I have a WP2 device I use for testing web development and the only podcast apps I've been able to find there are still too rudimentary to be of any real use.

Bacchus1976
on Nov 11, 2012

This is a shameful fact for Microsoft. Over-the-air podcast support in WP8 is OK. Not great, but I can can live with it so long as they eventually improve the granularity of control over how many episodes you can download and how many you can keep and for how long.

The loss of WiFi syncing and the ability to manage Podcasts on Win8 however is a joke. This was perhaps the only killer feature for WP7/Zune for us Podcast lovers. Now I have no way to listen to my podcasts on my PC and I have no way to save older podcasts for future use. If they improve WP8's OTA features and build a Win8 app that uses these same OTA settings as my phone and remembers where I left off on episodes hopefully most of the issues will be solved even without WiFi sync.

If only the Music situation were as easy to solve.

moonklash
on Nov 12, 2012

Interesting, I don't actually mind iTunes so much (despite the fact I spent the entire weekend correcting Album Artist fields on a couple of hundred gigs of music so I could sync via WMP!).

Having only ever synced an old iPod with iTunes then, a couple of questions:

* Does Windows Phone support Remember Playback Position on podcasts? On my iPod if I play a bit of a podcast, play something else, then go back to the podcast it'll remember the point I stopped playing and pick off again.

*Does it remember playback position on other tracks (when I Googled it on Windows Phone 7 people were frustrated as the Remember Playback Position didn't work unless they set their tracks to podcasts).

Do you think there's any chance Microsoft will do an update that brings back Wireless sync? I think people would be a lot more forgiving if Microsoft would just let us know. The old iPhones were realised with basic features like MMS missing till updates so nobody can really blame Microsoft if there are updates to the initial releases. I keep hoping that'll be the same for the missing FM radio.....

Jeffpiatt
on Nov 13, 2012

Microsoft should just rebrand the zune client as .windows media player and update the sync to give the mobile player libary support.

schlizzag
on Nov 15, 2012

How do we add new podcasts if they're not in the Windows Phone Store?

rwburnham
on Dec 7, 2012

I am wondering the same thing. Some of the podcasts I listen to I add to the Zune software by just copying and pasting the feed URL. Can I do the same thing with the new Windows Phone software?

rwburnham
on Dec 7, 2012

Even if we get podcasts from other software, then move them to our phones, how will the original software, such as iTunes, know where I left off on the podcasts on my phone? I'll have to manually tell the software what I is played and unplayed I am assuming, and if that's the case, forget it.

vchacon
on Dec 27, 2012

Anyone know how iTunes saw the HTC 8x phone? I can't get my seen by iTunes. I wanted to try see if the podcasts got synced to the phone.

Jazzism
on Dec 27, 2012

iTunes messed up ALL my music, finding the wrong cover art and mis match the albums of the songs. it's a friggin disaster. Now To have podcasts on a W8 phone they say - get iTunes. F U - yes, fudge is unreal.

I emailed the Stitcher group and they are working on a HTML 5 setup for it to run on all platforms, until then W8 people are screwed.

I emailed the Windows Developer Show (podcast) and I greatly appreciate them reading it on air but their arrogance disgusts me. They come out saying they never have any problem blah blah blah don't know why anyone else is saying they're having problems blah blah blah.

Microsoft people seriously have got to step out of their shell and see what is out there because this is pitiful. The Slapdash I tried to get working but it doesn't find any of my podcast links I punch in.

I really appreciated the Windows Developer Show guys answering (I mean belittling) my other question of requiring Windows to develop windows apps when it was clearly written is it required to run Windows 8 OS to develop Windows 8 apps. I spoke with a couple guys at the Microsoft store who truly know their stuff said otherwise that you shouldn't need it.

Overall Microsoft are trying to make a splash in the mobile yet again but their arrogance and ignorance about anything outside the small world of Microsoft is seriously disgusting.

Bottomline - still no podcast management other than to load iTunes. Nice. Forget it. That's just sending people away from actually adopting Microsoft products period.

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