Windows Phone 8 Tip: Share Only with Certain People

Unique Windows Phone features make it easy to share with groups

In keeping with its highly personalized and integrated foundations, Windows Phone 8 offers even more ways to share information only with certain people. Key to this functionality is an improved Groups feature and a new feature called Rooms.

Groups and Rooms are both ways to group two or more contacts into logical entities that you can access at once. However, they differ in some subtle but important ways. Groups are meant to mirror real-world relationships—co-workers, teammates, high-school friends, whatever—whose activities you wish to follow together, or whom you wish to communicate with all at once. Rooms, meanwhile, a more personal way to share with others who are close to you, and ideally are others who also use Windows Phone 8 handsets. It’s a good choice for families, especially.

So how do you choose between the two? That’s a tip within a tip: Aside from the Windows Phone 8 requirement, Rooms are for people who will also want to share and communicate with each other and not just with you. That is, you can and should use Groups to share with others and to follow others’ activities online … on a one to one basis. But Rooms is a formalized form of group sharing, where the members of the room will share with each other, and not just with you.

Both can be pinned to your Start screen for easy access.

Groups

Available in previous Windows Phone versions, Groups are exactly what they sound like: Groups of contacts. You create a group for two basic reasons: Because you wish to follow the members of that group in a single place, and because you wish to communicate with them all simultaneously. Groups are a concept that began first with Windows Live Messenger, but in Windows Phone 8, these groups now sync to your Microsoft account, so you will see them elsewhere, too, including Hotmail or Outlook.com.

You can access your groups (and room) from the Together panel in the People hub.

To create a group, open the People hub, ensure the Together panel is displayed, and then tap the New app bar button. From the Add New screen, choose Group.

Then, name the group and, in the Edit Group screen, add two or more members.

Once you’ve created a group, you can interact with its members in various ways. In the People hub, you can navigate to the group and, across a series of pivots, view, the tiles for each member, see what’s new using an aggregate feed that is only for the group members, and view recent photos from the group members. This interface is like a mini version of the People hub, but display only the information from the group members.

You can also send text (and chat) messages and emails to each member in the group from the People hub. Or you can do so from the Messaging and Email apps, respectively: Just type the group name in the To: field of a new text message or email. These capabilities mean that you can easily share many items with a group, too. If you want to share a photo with everyone in a group, you can do so via Messaging or an email account.

Rooms

Rooms is more powerful than Groups, but it’s also a bit more complex. In this case, you get the same what’s new feed and photos feed as with groups. But you also get shared chat (accessible via the room in People or in Messaging), shared calendar (in People and in Calendar), shared photos (in People and in Photos), and shared notes (in People and in Outlook Mobile), all in a unique People hub-hosted environment.

Rooms are invitation-only, and for the most part, the recipients each need to be using Windows Phone 8 for the best experience. (I’ll only be discussing this in the context of Windows Phone 8, but be sure to check out Microsoft’s post Tips for using Rooms on other phones for more information for non-Windows Phone 8 handsets.) And room members have to explicitly agree to be in the room with you: If they ignore or decline the invitation, then they’re not part of the room.

Rooms can be found alongside Groups in People, Together. As with Groups, you start a new room by tapping the New app bar button in this view, just choose Room from the Add New screen. Each room gets a name and then, after a somewhat lengthy wait while the room is configured on your phone, you can start inviting members via text messaging.

In addition to the shared items mentioned above, each room is a customizable environment with a background image. But only the person who created a room can add other members and remove members.

Discuss this Article 9

SoundersFan
on Dec 6, 2012

This is a brilliant feature. Brilliant as it is very useful for family units or groups of close friends. Brilliant too because it cost Microsoft next to nothing to develop. They pulled together 4 features that already existed into a shiny convenient package.

1) chat: this is just group chat where you can chat with multiple people and everyone gets all the messages from everyone.
2) calendar: this is just a shared outlook calendar. Go to outlook.com, login, and drop down the "share" list and select the calendar with the same name as your room. That the calendar. Note it is shared with all the members of the room.
3) photos: it's a shared folder on skydrive. Open skydrive.com, login, and click on folder named with the roomName, then click "roomName Photos" folder. There you will see all the shared photos. Again, permissions is set to those in the room.
4) notes: you see the pattern now, it's a shared notebook in your roomName folder on skydrive.

This is not to belittle the Windows Phone folks, on the contrary, they are super creative. They took existing products and filled a customer need. Whoever came up with this idea deserves a gold star for sure.

Families in particular need to share grocery lists, travel plans, “honey-do lists”, project plans, schedules, events, whereabouts, and family photos. Rooms fill that need very well.

GoodThings2Life
on Dec 6, 2012

Paul,

I'd love to see a more detailed how-to write-up on Rooms... what works, what doesn't work when using Windows Phone 8 and when using a non-Windows Phone 8 (WP7, iOS, Android).

It definitely seems less useful when used with a non-WP8 device, or maybe I just didn't spend enough time playing with it to figure it out.

pthurrott
on Dec 6, 2012

I meant to add a note to that effect, sorry. I will be writing more about Rooms.

scottbakertemp
on Dec 6, 2012

Paul,
My wife and I just ordered 2 Lumia 920's. Can we use the same live id on both phones (so we don't have to buy apps twice) and also use this room feature to chat with each other?
thanks,
-Scott Baker

skdouglas
on Dec 7, 2012

I have the same question in connection with Win8. Can you have separate online ID, but share the apps you have bought. I noticed a ``link ids`` in the Microsoft acct. setup, but I don`t know what it does. I tried to link my wife`s acct with mine, but it keeps telling that this function is not available at this moment, and to come back later to try again. That was 2 months ago, and it still doesn`t work. I`m not even sure this is the solution I am looking for. Would appreciate nay help in this regard.

Thanks,
Shawn

scottbakertemp
on Dec 7, 2012

I can mostly answer this one as we just got my wife's Lumia yesterday. The first Live ID you put in the phone is used for your app purchases. I did not see a way to use an alternate live ID for the store.

Also if you were to use the same live id on multiple phones you would have to use some other service for your contacts or share the same live contacts across both phones.

My Lumia is coming today so I'll put up some more info on this later this weekend.

I think we're going to end up using separate live ID's and purchase apps twice.

scottbakertemp
on Dec 8, 2012

I figured this out - the room feature is useless if you use the same live ID on 2 phones. When you go to add the second person, it says they are already in the room. I think we're just going to use the same live ID and not use the room feature at all.

vrmerlin
on Dec 7, 2012

My wife and I both switched to Lumia 920s a couple weeks ago. In general we love them. We were excited about the Rooms feature, but for some reason we can't seem to get the Notes to work. I created the Room, and she successfully added herself, but she can't see the Notes that we should be sharing (though I see/edit them fine in "my" room view).

I saw a forum posting by one other person that was having the same issue, but no solution provided. So far, we aren't sure what to do. Great potential, though. :-(

John

neonspark
on Dec 7, 2012

nice concept with this reminds me of why nobody uses google+. It is simply something nobody really needs and therefore nobody will really use. And by nobody I mean the vast majority of non technical people who don't run a team of avid smart phone users.

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