Why Surface RT? Part 6: Windows RT

The Metro core of Windows RT is the future of Windows ... today

While the iPad has certain ecosystem advantages over the recently-released Surface with Windows RT, Microsoft’s entry does of course edge out the Apple device in some key areas as well. For Surface, a big advantage is that it runs Windows RT, a version of Windows that retains the best of the past while providing the foundation for the future.

Suffice to say that my relationship with Windows RT is complex. And while I feel that Windows 8 running on low-end Atom “Clover Trail” x86 hardware currently offers a better overall solution for mainstream users, let there be no doubt that the heart of Windows RT, Metro, is the future of this platform. And if you’ve elected to buy in this early, what you’re using today is clearly the Windows of the future.

I laid out my case for this scenario back in May in No, Windows RT Isn’t Windows . . . Yet. “If Windows RT takes off and is truly successful, it becomes Windows,” I wrote. “That is, it does what NT did decades ago, existing for a time side-by-side with what used to be Windows and then eventually supplanting the old Windows.”

This is a big bet. Today, Windows RT is incompatible with the many Windows desktop applications and browser plug-ins out there. It offers only partial driver support for hardware devices, though many common devices—storage, keyboards, mice, and many printers—work just fine. For these and other reasons, I’ve argued that Surface with Windows RT is no PC replacement, because it isn’t. But Windows RT, and Surface with Windows RT, are aimed at a very different market, the market for tablets that is currently dominated by the iPad. And in this capacity, Surface RT is a lot more interesting. It also targets what will likely be a much bigger market than that for traditional PCs within a few years.

For those of us who follow Windows and love good technology, Surface is thus a promise for the future. It is a future where legacy deadwood is removed from Windows in a far quicker timeframe than had ever happened in the past. It is a future where viruses and malware are a thing of the past and the apps that can run on our devices are curated by Microsoft and prevented from harming the system, the other installed apps, and our data.

It is, in other words, the purest expression of this future mobile platform, which I still call Metro, because it contains only those parts of the legacy desktop that are most needed since we’re still in a transitionary phase. I expect future versions of Windows RT to more aggressively remove these remaining legacy bits while Microsoft uses its x86/x64 Windows cousins to continue legacy compatibility as long as is needed. I also expect Windows RT and Windows Phone to move ever closer together as well, given their common underpinnings.

Many have argued to me that making this move today actually makes sense, and that it is the lack of support that drew them to Windows RT—and Surface with Windows RT—in the first place. Such people are pioneers, the technological equivalents of the settlers who raced across the newly minted American West in the 1800s. I don’t have the constitution for such a radical change this soon, and my workload still requires some desktop applications that don’t yet have Metro equivalents. Maybe you do.

Discuss this Article 20

John Thurlow
on Nov 26, 2012

Good article Paul, glad to see you pit RT against other tablets in its range. I appreciate your earlier critique of RT versus Windows 8 in the context of warning users who expected an equivalent PC experience on RT, but was concerned it was coming across as rubbishing the first release of RT, where from my perspective if you are considering RT versus Android and iOS or RT as a supplementary device to your PC, it comes out pretty good.

One interesting question this does raise is that if RT is the future and Clover Trail and its successors outperform ARM this could make the transition away from legacy baggage a bit more of a challenge.

blakjedi
on Nov 26, 2012

I'm glad for your last paragraph Mr. Thurott. I have been reading up on the entire windows 8 family ever since I saw one of my buddies with a Lumia 900 last spring. I discovered you and this site at that time. Since then I feel like you have had a very tumultuous relationship with Windows in general and Windows RT and WP8 specifically.

As such we probably disagree on a great many things related to the windows 8 ecosystem.

For example jumping from desktop to metro isn't dissonant to me at all. If i have business in the desktop... nothing takes me out of that experience that have encountered - in a year of using the OS.

I think the Surface is a MUCH better device than the iPad and I have two iPads. I also have an MBP as well as other desktop windows machines.

After acclimating to windows 8 on my desktop and my surface, I question why keep the MBP? I got rid of my Android phone once the Lumia 920 was released... Why fiddle with a false desktop/launchpad filled with icons that require rooting or jailbreaking to be truly effective?

By the same token why worry about app count when the most fundamental uses of my phone and tablet are built in? There is no actual need for facebook or twitter apps as they are built into the "ME" and "People" tiles under W8/RT/P8.

Those tiles ARE the killer apps because they link you into the content you want, no app necessary and aren't available on any other system period.

MS was RIGHT to include the desktop in RT and it would have been a mistake to leave it out. Why?

When people use Office, they use it in a multitasking desktop metaphor... and RT still allows you to multitask in that desktop environment as normal.

You can run Desktop IE and Word on the same screen side by side, vertically or horizontally as you wish just like you can in windows 7. You cannot do that on any other tablet.

The inclusion of the desktop makes TOO much sense but for whatever reason you missed that.

Then you can even multitask between the desktop and Metro environments... you cant do that anywhere else either.

A user on theverge's microsoft tribe forum posted this video:

http://youtu.be/CRHphyjZA-w

and it outlines many but not even all of the strengths of the Windows RT on Arm interface over the iPad... its amazing that even in all of your many articles- including the one I'm commenting in right now, you couldn't put the argument FOR RT together as well as this amateur.

Nevertheless keep up the good work on windows... and put your back into RT instead of poopooing it. Your Readers seem to have more "constitution" than you do in this regard.

Wileybc
on Nov 26, 2012

I have just registered so I can make this comment...Thank you blakjedi. You've expressed my exact sentiments.

Paul, I too have been keeping up with your work for about a year and you definitely seem to have a love/hate relationship with Windows 8 and WP8. I like to read a honest unbiased review of both good and bad points (and there are certainly plenty of both) but your negative phrasings seem to many times overshadow any positive points of equal or greater stature as noted in the comment above.

Nevertheless, I do find your work helpful in reviewing Microsoft products and really do appreciate the work you do. FYI, I have a 3 monitor desktop setup with Windows 8, a Surface RT, and an Ipad (my wifes). I will be getting the Surface Pro for the digitizer and some desktop apps (my wife can't wait since she will then get the Surface RT and has used it enough to know it will more than adequately replace the Ipad for her). Also, unlike you, I never see the situation where the desktop environment will go away. Multiple, re-sizeable, desktop applications are just too valuable a productivity tool for large screens. I think Windows 8 is on the right track where the user can decide what screen size is best to crossover between desktop and RT. As their Windows Phone 8 ad states, it's designed for each of us, not all of us.

roncerr
on Nov 26, 2012

Paul's view is balanced if you read all his posts. But we are more concerned about things we loose going from Windows to WinRT instead of what we gain going from iPad to WinRT. Most of us do not have an iPad and many, like myself, have no iDevice at all. I got a kick out of the video's large text proclamation: "'...Rosolution' which safes...battery life".

petrol
on Nov 26, 2012

I think in your Samsung review you said that Windows 8 on Atom performs, at least on Samsung ATIV PC, as well as RT. If that's the case, then doesn't it mean there's little reason to go with an Windows RT PC? An Atom-based Windows 8 PC is essentially Windows RT + Legacy Desktop, so why not go with the + Desktop version? It's less of a risk.

blakjedi
on Nov 26, 2012

Remember, there's Windows RT which is an OS release, and WinRT which is an API which is different from the Win32 legacy API (aka desktop). As more formerly win32 applications either get converted to WinRT (and thus run natively on on any system with RT included), or have a WinRT version, the legacy desktop becomes less valuable.

Now every device with RT, whether Atom, ARM or full x86 can run that app and have value. In two years your current surface RT will still be able to run those apps rewritten for RT.

IF MS moves forward with this API paradigm successfully that will mean that every device running the WinRT API (windows 8, 9, xbox surface, surface RT, Surface Pro, maybe the next xbox as well) can basically run the same app.

There are even hints in the developer materials that MS is looking to do application compilation on the fly in the cloud. So the app developer develops and submits their app to MS. A flag is placed in the Store signalling the app is ready for download. The user regardless of underlying architecture, receives that app for their device transparently without regard to the hardware they are running.

Courtesy of WinRT. Its much more technical than that but that is the gist of where MS is going with all of this... its a painful transition (especially to snarky bloggers on macbooks ;) ) but a necessary one for MS.

Rallicat
on Nov 26, 2012

The reason I chose to go with Windows RT, is that basically it removes the temptation to install 'old' desktop software.

Why would I want to avoid that? Simple; whilst I'm sure a clover trail system might /start/ with comparable performance and battery life to an ARM system, what's going to happen to that after some desktop software's been installed? What's it going to be like when there's update agents and background tasks running? Will it be as good then? I doubt it.

Remember, the convenience of a tablet is underpinned by things like long battery life. Without it you'd be going to pick up your tablet and .. oops, battery dead ... that's not a good experience at all, and one I feel would be the reality on x86 clover trail tablets.

So, I keep my desktop PC for the power user stuff, and have my Surface RT as a secondary device where I can count on it 'just working', consistently, whenever I need it. And I know it will stay that way, because even if I'm tempted to do so, I /can't/ install anything that would mess up the experience.

syforum
on Nov 27, 2012

This is exactly reason why I choose to go for RT as well. I think system restriction put by RT is good and will help assure users that the system is going to be stable.

aras
on Nov 26, 2012

If Windows RT is future of Widows, I'm not looking forward to this future... Not because RT can’t do proper multitasking or other current flaws – this obviously can be fixed.
What worries me most is Windows turning into completely closed iPad like walled garden. Does it not worry you at all Paul (as a technology enthusiast)?

neonspark
on Nov 26, 2012

windows RT can't do proper multi-tasking? So when I'm opening IE and copying and pasting content into word and then launching excel to import some data, graph it, and copy and paste the chart into power point...that's not "proper" multi tasking?

what am I doing wrong then?

Nine54
on Nov 26, 2012

I've wondered Paul's take on that as well and share the same concern. The success of Windows is in large part due to its accessibility and diverse hardware ecosystem. Now Android is thriving for the same reasons while MS is going the Apple route.

patmondor
on Nov 26, 2012

Anyone who is consuming content using a tablet device (iPad, Android or Win8), is not only buying into the hardware or OS, but as Paul has stated very recently (and I agree totally) an ecosystem. I think Apple has done quite well in this endevour, don't you think? I see nothing wrong in Microsoft controlling the user experience in terms of Metro and specifically a walled "garden" as you stated. Such an approach ensures a standard, but robust user experience. The "new" apps we see today I'm sure is the tip of the iceberg. Once the OS matures I suspect apps will continue to flourish. I give Microsoft credit for taking the hard road.

aras
on Nov 27, 2012

Some valid points, but we not talking here only about tablets and consumption devices. The idea is that Microsoft is going to put the whole PC/Windows ecosystem beyond a walled garden. Sure it works for Apple with iPad, but Windows has to offer so much more than iPad. If Microsoft grand plan is to become another Apple, I may well just choose the real “Apple”. Being open platform and offering choice has worked for Windows in the past 20 years, it works for Google with Android in 2012 as well. I’m all up for change and don’t have any issues in replacing desktop, etc. but I will not agree that locking down Windows to the iPad level is a good idea.

neonspark
on Nov 26, 2012

From a performance perspective, let's keep in mind that Tegra 3 is not a state of the art ARM chip. Surface's timing was really poor because it should have been made to match the launch of the snap dragon s4 pro chip used in google's nexus 10. The S4 pro will be the new benchmark for performance across all mobile devices.

Off course the nexus 10 is laggy even when browsing the web for it can't push that many pixels even with this cpu (see the verge's video review for horrible lag browsing their own site).

However android has always been really bloated and runs at a decent speed most of the time meaning that WinRT will just zing on snapdragon S4 pro.

Waethorn
on Nov 26, 2012

Linux...."bloated"? Don't let the OSS girls hear you say that.

Rallicat
on Nov 26, 2012

I'm glad to see an article that acknowledges the big advantage of Windows RT - its purity ... and its consistent, unbreakable purity at that...

... assuming you don't jailbreak it of course! ;)

GoodThings2Life
on Nov 26, 2012

Yes. This article is spot on.

And I guess I'm a pioneer to a point. I'm a pioneer because I can see the people in my life that CAN and SHOULD adopt WinRT right now. Yesterday, in fact. Maybe even years ago. They should be pushed kicking and screaming in some cases... you know, the ones who actually GET malware on their systems by virtue of not paying attention. The users like our parents who just want something fast, simple, and easy... but still need to get something done once in a while.

But you're right, we're also pioneers, and it's a wilderness out here without our comfort apps and Flash-enabled sites. We'll get through it, and everyone else will be better for it.

Serge Montangero
on Nov 27, 2012

Good point, and I was thinking along the same line recently, because it occurred to me that for most private users (not tech enthusiasts), a computer is way too powerful and complex for their needs. Windows RT may be a big bet, but it could also prove to be a good investment for the future from Microsoft, because it could addresss all the needs of these users without the overhead in terms of maintenance and security (or much less of it). Which is not the case for the iPad for instance, 99.99% of iPad owners also have a computer (be it PC or Mac). And then you realize that Microsoft's strategy to implement Windows in tablets may actually make sense (rather than pushing Windows Phone to larger screen devices).

kauffman@pbworld.com
on Dec 3, 2012

Does anybody know if the Surface supports Wifi Direct? I am looking at developing a presentation using about 8 WinRT devices.

blakjedi
on Dec 8, 2012

This is a great windows 8/RT expose...

http://youtu.be/jG-HU4BkQQA

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