Digital Music: To the Cloud

I wanted to use Xbox Music, I really did

I’ve been preaching a “do more with less” strategy for personal technologies for years, but as with any advice, it’s easier to give than to take. After waiting to see whether Xbox Music would fulfill Microsoft’s ambitions of a one-stop shop for digital music, and watching it fail spectacularly, I’m going to have to fall back to plan B. And that involves looking elsewhere for my digital music needs.

To be clear, I’m not necessarily advocating this as the ideal approach for all readers. Indeed, it’s pretty clear that we all have different needs and wants when it comes to digital music and related media ecosystem services. But I’m hoping that a description of my own strategy will trigger a broader conversation around this topic and will cause some to rethink their traditional but perhaps out-of-date media management habits. I’m also hoping that Microsoft fixes Xbox Music, as I think anyone using Windows 8 in particular will admit that this set of services is half-baked at best.

But first, a look back.

In the old days, I would rip songs from audio CDs in whatever format and manage a local, PC-based music collection that I often replicated across multiple PCs and to a home-based server. Like some of you, I actually create the core of this collection first. I think my first stab at it involved medium-quality WMA files (in retrospect, a mistake, but it seemed like a good choice at the time), but I later re-ripped the whole thing in higher quality MP3 format.

The collection grew over time. With the release of various online music stores, I started adding music from sources that no longer exist or are relevant—Real, MusicMatch, MTV Urge, Zune, and others—as well as some that stood the test of time, like Apple iTunes and Amazon MP3 especially, but also Google with its Play service. Over time, the quality of songs from these services went up and DRM disappeared. Today, Apple, Amazon, Google, and Microsoft (now through Xbox Music) all offer high-quality songs in AAC or MP3 format.

This music was doubly nice because it’s DRM-free and could be used anywhere. So you could mix and match music purchases across multiple services, and I did. But I still needed to manage it manually. How one did this depended on a variety of factors, including which PC-based media player(s) one preferred and which devices one chose. If you went the iPod/iPhone route, as many did, iTunes was the only choice. Those with Zunes and later Windows Phones used the Zune PC software.’

Unfortunately, I used both. This was complex and tedious for a number of reasons, and further complicated by the other media—podcasts, TV shows and movies, audio books, iTunes learning content, and so on—that each provided. For music, album art required constant attention in both apps. If you’re at all fastidious—and I try, but … you know—this kind of thing is a nightmare.

Of course, it wasn’t just the local music collection. One of the Zune advantages that has endured is Xbox Music Pass (originally called Zune Pass), a relatively inexpensive ($9.99 per month or $100 per year) subscription service that evolved over time and today provides streaming and offline/download access to Microsoft’s extensive music catalog on Windows 8/RT, Windows Phone 8, and streaming access to Xbox 360. (It’s available on older Windows platforms too.) Since I’m a heavy user of devices in this ecosystem, and because I live in the US where bandwidth is both cheap and readily available, Xbox Music Pass has always made plenty of sense to me.

(Subscription services took various forms, too. I’ve subscribed to many radio-like subscription services, the most notable being Pandora and Spotify, both of which are excellent. But, over time, I gravitated solely to Xbox Music Pass.)

The other big revolution in digital music, I think was the one-two punch of online music lockers and music matching services, both of which are often and ideally combined into a single service. Google Music is an example of a “pure” music locker in that you get some amount of storage online (in this case, free will work for most users) and you can upload your music collection to the service and then access it online, via a web interface on the PC or a native app on mobile device (just Android in this case).

Music match services take the notion of an online music locker to its logical conclusion: Since companies like Apple, Amazon and now Microsoft already offer tens of millions of songs in high quality formats online, why bother forcing the user to upload their own music? Instead, utilities can scan the user’s music collection, match most of that music to music that the company already stores online, and then make that music (in higher quality formats, usually) available to them online. Any songs that can’t be matched will then be uploaded to the service, and what the user will get is basically their entire collection, in the cloud, with most of it being of higher quality than the original.

The first two big players here, of course, were Apple and Amazon. And both services, which are essentially paid services--$25 per year for Apple’s iTunes Match or Amazon Cloud Player Premium, respectively—are excellent. Apple provides access to iTunes Match through iTunes on the PC and on iOS devices (iPad, iPhone, iPod touch) only. Amazon provides access to Cloud Player via a web interface on the PC and iPad, and via native mobile clients for Kindle Fire/HD, Android, iPhone, and iPod touch.

Notably, neither of these services support Windows Phone. I feel there’s a chance, a good one, that Amazon will eventually get there. I don’t think Apple will ever support Windows Phone (or Android). So I’ve been heading towards Amazon and away from Apple. Again, your own needs could trigger different decisions.

Heading into 2012, I was using multiple PC- and device-based music clients, multiple online music stores, and multiple online music services of various kinds. In keeping with my advice-is-cheap “do more with less” philosophy, I really wanted to settle on a minimal number of services, and just move forward with whatever made the most sense.

I had hoped that Xbox Music would do it all. Certainly, that was the promise.

Looking back on my Xbox Music Preview article from June, and a more recent Xbox Music Preview from October, you can see how it should have stacked up: This service was to offer a huge music collection for purchases, Zune-like music discovery and sharing features, clients for Windows 8/RT, Windows Phone 8, Xbox 360, Android, and iOS (the latter two eventually), Xbox Music Pass for streaming and offline/download use, dynamic, radio station-like playlists, and a Cloud Collection (music locker) feature with music matching so you could get your own collection in the cloud. It sounds perfect on paper. It sounds like it offers everything that a long list of rival services offer, but all in one place.

If only the reality matched the promise. Anyone who uses Xbox Music today will tell you that it’s a mess. Xbox Music Pass works as well as ever, but the Cloud Collection stuff is confusing at best, especially on Windows 8/RT, and the music matching functionality is a tedious, broken waste of time. When you combine this horrible brokenness with other issues related to Windows 8 media management—how horrible microSD/USB storage devices are, for starters—it’s pretty clear that Xbox Music, overall, just isn’t there yet. Maybe it will be eventually. It’s just not today. It doesn’t just not work well. It doesn’t work, period.

So here’s what I’m doing. And again, this isn’t so much meant as advice for you as it is a heads-up about my own music management decisions.

To the cloud. Generally speaking, I want all of my music in the cloud. And I do not want to manage music locally except when I need to, for those semi-rare offline uses. Instead, I am using Amazon Cloud Player, which contains my entire music collection, including playlists.

PCs. Ido not need music on any of my PCs, ever. I want my entire legacy music collection in the cloud. I want to access it online only, and I don’t want that music taking up space locally. PCs are for work. And I have tons of devices that can play music. That music doesn’t have to come out of my PC. But I can access Amazon Cloud Player from the web interface when desired.

Home server. I will not be streaming my music collection from the home server, ever, to any PCs or devices. I simply don’t need to. Yes, I will continue to keep a copy of my music collection there, but it will be considered a backup and never accessed. What the heck, I have a ton of storage.

Phone. I use Windows Phone, and I will not be syncing any PC-based music to this device. Instead, I will use Xbox Music Pass and download a set of albums from that service to the phone for occasional offline use. I also manage a handful of podcasts from the device (US only, I know) using the functionality in Music + Videos. I am also downloading a few audiobooks to the phone.

Secondary phone/MP3 player. I use a second Windows Phone handset for media playback at home and on the road. This device has more music than my day-to-day phone, also via Xbox Music Pass, as well as podcasts and audiobooks.

Media tablets. The Kindle Fire HD, iPad mini and Nexus 7 can all use the Amazon MP3 app to access my Cloud Player-based collection. This app lets you download music for offline use. Soon, these devices should have access to the Xbox Music Pass service as well, via a pre-announced Xbox Music app.

And that’s about it. My music solution, such as it is, amounts to Amazon Cloud Player (which includes my entire, years-old collection) and Xbox Music Pass, neither of which is free. Had Microsoft gotten Xbox Music right, I could have stayed solely with that one solution. And who knows, maybe someday they will. I can change at any time. But right now, I like where it’s at.

Yes, your needs may vary. Many are still pursuing what I think is an old-fashioned strategy of managing music locally and syncing it over USB to devices. It’s time to move beyond that, I think. As with other data, music should be centrally located in the cloud and your PC should be a client, or end-point for that data, not the central store. The only reason not to do this is because you live somewhere where bandwidth isn’t cheap, or because you’re stuck with older devices that have no connectivity to cloud services. Or perhaps you simply can’t afford to pay for services like Cloud Player Premium or Xbox Music Pass. I get it, I do.

But the world is moving on. And it’s time to at least start considering moving that carefully curated music collection, the one you’ve been copying manually from PC to PC and from device to device, to the cloud.

Where it belongs.

Discuss this Article 23

grking
on Nov 23, 2012

Nice article, but as you said, YMMV. I have about 20K songs, and both Apple and MS matched about 17K. The manual matching process was not all that bad, considering that the music not matched was kind of obscure or live recordings. Lastly, I am not sure about the "confusing" aspect, as it all just showed up on my Surface tablet. I have not picked up a WP8 phone yet so I can't comment there.

bdegrande
on Nov 23, 2012

I do use one of the services you mentioned, Amazon Cloud Player. I have bought my music from Amazon for years, and music that you have bought from Amazon doesn't count against your storage limit, which at 50GB and 250,000 songs for $25/year is pretty generous anyway. I still load a lot of music onto my player (in my case a 64GB iPod Touch), though. I do a lot of walking for exercise (2000 miles last year), and the vast majority of my music listening is done away from home, without reliable wifi. Even if I used a phone for listening, I would not want to use up cellular bandwidth that frequently.

curlym
on Nov 23, 2012

I have actually gone a hybrid route as I have realised that I had a music collection that was a mess with mixed formats, bit rates etc from different sources ( mostly legal).
I am in the process of copying my 500 + CD collection to my WHS 2011 in Apple lossless format.
I chose this format as I have an Apple TV 3 and a high end music system. I found that I was not getting a satisfying listening experience with compressed MP3's
Am still intending to add high quality MP3's to the collection that I have purchased from various sources at a minimum bitrate of 320.

vrmerlin
on Nov 23, 2012

Hi Paul-

I don't quite get something. If you have the Xbox Music Pass, why do you need a Cloud Collection feature? I have numerous CDs in my (historical) collection, yet frankly I never really touch them these days; I just find the same CD in XMP, and add it to my collection on the device. I've been happily streaming tons of music on my Surface, Lumia 920, and Windows 8 Desktop, all without touching my own collection.

John

pthurrott
on Nov 23, 2012

The issue is that not everything is in Microsoft's collection. I listen to a lot of instrumental music and as an example, two of the artists I listen to fairly frequently--Yann Tiersen and Dead Combo--are poorly represented in Xbox Music (and Xbox Music Pass).

JimmyFal
on Nov 23, 2012

My favorite part of the entire Xbox Music in its "current" incarnation is the ability to create playlists on Xbox "the device". My original dream of creating all my playlists and then having them follow me on all my devices has turned in to the inevitable; this isn't ready yet ala Skydrive.

Skydrive had such un realized promise all along and then only recently have they finally delivered the final amazing product. But it took years of waiting for them to get it right. MS needs to do all this type of finally getting it right for Xbox Music in a much more timely fashion.

I have all these great playlists that contain all the songs on one device, the Xbox itself, and then inexplicably the other devices are simply just missing songs etc. etc. And the whole “discovery” process on this service just isn’t that discoverable. I would love to be a fly on the wall of all this user telemetry they claim to be doing. Faster Microsoft, fix it faster. And for god’s sake why not have a video tutorial in every app.

CaptainStack
on Nov 23, 2012

I feel like we're not quite there yet. I use an unlocked Windows Phone without data. I usually have wi-fi, but I need local files for music.

Also, I need local files for music when I'm on planes and other places without wi-fi.

This is why I love Spotify Premium with offline access to playlists. Do you get that with Amazon/Xbox Music?

GMelia
on Nov 23, 2012

I made the same decision a few weeks ago. I realised I had a couple of hundred pounds worth of Hi-Fi separates going unused in the lounge as I was too lazy to swap CD’s around. I’d rather listen to the music stored on my home server via the PC. So I took my CD’s to a car boot sale and sold them for a pound each. Sold my Hi-Fi on Ebay and am putting the funds towards a SONOS amp (I kept my floor standing speakers). This will stream my entire collection from amazons cloud player, which I’ve got for free for a year due to having a US account rather than a UK one, as well as serve it up to my phone and tablet. Gives SONOS a year to officially allow the use of the amazon service in the UK. Less clutter, less power used and it’s all so much easier.

ShaneR
on Nov 23, 2012

Ya know, I've been thinking a lot about how I listen to, and manage, my music. And something is slowly dawning on me, I think: I don't nearly (not even close) enjoy music as I once did. I remember the days when I'd just throw on a record (then a cd), turn off the lights, and enjoy. I never do that anymore.

And I'm starting to wonder if it isn't this digital organizational "mess" that's caused it.

I have all my music in the cloud via Google (all high quality), but I still don't listen much. The quality of sound via my pc speakers, or my Nexus 7, is just...meh. And none of the music services offer anything different than what I could do locally.

Anyway, I won't bother elaborating on my reasons, but I'm beginning to realize that I've never accepted digital music, not really. There's something about the entire experience, from start to finish, that's just never worked for me. I'm actually thinking about investing in a new audio system and rebuilding my CD collection...heck, I've even been thinking about going back to vinyl. ;)

Anyway...good read as always, Paul.

angerball
on Nov 23, 2012

Thanks for the write up Paul. I guess we are still a ways from getting your mp3 collection including playlists where you want on any device you own. I have been a android user and enjoy the Google music app and the Amazon app. but with my switch to windows phone 8 life has been more complex.

Matching services just don't work for me because they all remove some of my songs with Parental Advisory and give me the radio versions. Only way I know I will get all my music the way I want to listen to it, is in the cloud. Until we get the ability to use sky drive with a music app I guess I'm doing the same thing as Paul.

Pete.
on Nov 23, 2012

The problem is that Cloud Connection really isn't a music locker. It's similar to Rdio's matching where it just checks your tags and adds the songs it has to a playlist. Until Microsoft adds a proper music locker, Xbox Music will not be very useful.

Also, Mobile broadband is expensive with restrictive data caps, and I don't think that will change anytime soon. Until things change in that regard, I think local/device storage of music will still be necessary. Streaming music can very quickly use up your monthly data allotment.

NetLogic
on Nov 23, 2012

I Wish all your MS criticism is not used by other blogger sites to bash Microsoft. I can give you many examples, sites like verge, engadget, zdnet, etc sometimes quote your articles to criticize MS. They use a dirty tricks, their logic is that if people Paul has lost hope in MS, then MS products are virtually doomed. And many average Joe readers think that way. It may be a mind game, but it does have a depressing effect on people who want to buy MS products

Rishicash
on Nov 24, 2012

I don't know what to make of Paul's position now. I've been following him closely for a few years now and respect his opinion. He seems to have shifted earlier this year and I often I wonder if isn't changing his position. He clearly loves WP8 but it often sounds like he's not sure if it will even be around in even the medium run. He was really big on Nokia for a long time and now not so much.

I'm not criticizing Paul in the least as whatever his position is, I'm sure it is very well founded. I've been holding off purchasing a WP8 phone or even upgrading to W8 and use Paul's advice to go by but I'm not sure what that is recently. I've been a loyal MS user for many years, but if not for Paul's boosting, I probably would have jumped shipped by now.

If you're reading this Paul, I think you have done more to promote MS than anyone who actually works there and yet they treat you like crap and I admire you ability to bite your tongue...most of the time anyway! :)

pthurrott
on Nov 24, 2012

No one is more aware of the Windows Phone team's ambivalence towards me than me. They ignore my emails, won't send me devices to review, and don't respond to questions. So ... yeah. But I legitimately prefer Windows Phone, obviously. It really is better.

garak0410
on Nov 23, 2012

Thanks for covering this. XBOX music is a mess but I'll be patient for sure as I want this to work. I wish we had more control over the cloud aspect of it. Yeah, syncing isn't quite the same but the cloud is just not working for me. Very messy.

rth314
on Nov 24, 2012

So how do you listen to music that is not on Xbox Music on your Windows Phones? If you don't sync with a PC then on Windows Phone you limit your listening to only the songs on Xbox Music. The major missing piece is after matching your music, there is nothing that copies your unmatched music to the cloud. At first I thought I was doing something wrong, as I could find no reviews or blogs that pointed out this huge missing feature.

Johnny Alexandru
on Nov 24, 2012

Paul, have you tried Style Jukebox? It's just a preview, but we are moving fast with the development. What do you think about it ?

SteveCr48
on Nov 24, 2012

Paul, I need 2 features so I can ditch the multi-combo-eco-devices-n-services

1) Audible to support subscriptions on WP8. You can't listen to the WSJ or NYT, for example, on a WP, but it's been supported on Android and the iPhone for years.

2) A better podcast solution for my WP. The Xbox podcast directory is too limited, your solution to sync with iTunes is unacceptable, and the 3rd party apps are weak.

Thanks for helping push our interests along!!

jefferydmitchell
on Nov 25, 2012

I live in Canada and the only viable option for us is iTunes. The new Xbox Music service is basically broken and incomplete, as you point out Paul. I was giving them money, each month, hoping it would get better over time, but clearly that's not going to happen. Microsoft's services don't deserve to be paid for at this point.

The bright light, which may end iTunes suffering, is that the Google Play Music service is partially available in Canada now. I say partially because the store doesn't work. The Music locker component is great. I have an Android phone and I've found it to be a near perfect solution.

Stuart
on Nov 25, 2012

Great article, Paul! I started my cloud music adventure with Apple's iTunes in the Cloud feature, which was really convenient due to the iTunes Match feature. However, I found that streaming my music to my iPhone via a 3G cellular connection was awful (has anybody else experienced this?). Songs would stop every so often to buffer and if it took long enough they would just stop altogether. Having been a previous MobileMe customer this was signaled the end of my days relying on Apple to provide online services, so I switched to Amazon Cloud Player. Amazon's streaming capabilities are far more superior than Apple's. My only problem now is that since I switched from AT&T to Verizon I am now on a shared data plan with my Wife. The streaming has caused us to receive warnings of going over our data allotment half way through the billing cycle. For now, I have resorted to the old-fashioned USB-to-Device to sync playlists that I have cherry picked from my collection in Amazon's cloud to my PC.

ZipZapRap
on Nov 26, 2012

No way will I ever get rid of my music collection and store it in the cloud.
To people who actually care about audio quality, first we were hit with the mp3 whammy, which made us folk even more niche than we’d ever been, as the general consumer trumpeted convenience over quality, style over substance, form over function.
Now we’re being hit with streaming, where not only do we have to put up with the source file being of substandard quality, now we have to put up with things like drop outs, poor internet cables, atmospheric disturbance, and (uggghh) more jitter.

I recognise folks like me are few and far between, and that the sweaty masses don’t care about quality any more. But it’d be nice if companies at least offered those of us who like quality, the ability to have our cake and eat it.
Hence, I will never store my collection anywhere else except at home, with a backup in the cloud for emergency use only!

miker
on Dec 3, 2012

Paul, as we know to expect of you, this is very well thought out and described. Thank you!

You were a big part of my subscribing to the Zune Pass back when it was new to the market. I remained with Zune up to now, but have cancelled my subscription as of this month. There is much I'll miss about it.

Xbox Music has not provided a service competitive with the current market. In particular, I find Spotify a spectacular service with a huge on demand library, support for mobile platforms, an excellent radio service, playlists synced across all platforms, a vibrant social community which is aiding my discovery of music, and even supports downloading for offline listening. I recommend you lake a new look at Spotify, it delivers today.

Thanks for all you do for our community. Best... miker

GaryC
on Jan 19, 2013

I have recently done something similar. I use an Android phone and tablet, a Win7 laptop, a Google Chromebook. My wife uses an iPhone and iPad, and we share a Windows 7 Desktop that is rarely used. We also have an Apple TV in the living room.

I am currently all in with Google docs/drive, email etc. and for various reasons I can't change that.

We both are considering Window 8 phones, but the music and files solution are the last things holding us back.

My current solution is as follows. I have over 400 albums worth of music. I have uploaded all of my music to Amazon Cloud Player and Google Music. I like the piece of mind of knowing that no one company can cut me off from my music. Once that was done, life is pretty simple.

We purchase all our music at Amazon. I regularly download all purchased tracks to My Music folder on the desktop. This is also the watch folder for Google Music Manager which automatically uploads all new files to my Google Music account.

This gives me a good mix of convenience and piece of mind.

1. Through the Apple TV we can listen to music in the living room via my wife's iOS devices and airplay, or airplay from the desktop (my preferred method).

2. I can use the Amazon App or the Google Play app on my phone and Nexus 7. I am using the Amazon app more and more. Both allow for streaming or offline storage.

3. My wife can wireless sync to her iOS devices or chose to upload to Apple Cloud Drive and stream or sync from there. In the next few days, we will experiment with Amazon's new apps for iOS.

MY PROBLEM: I want to switch to Win8 Phone, but I don't want to go back to tethered syncing of music. Is Xbox Music the only option?

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