Xbox Live Gold should stay as is except MS should remove it as a requirement for Netflix on 360 and for the Xbox One. Gamers should pay to support the infrastructure they are playing on. PSN is now going to be charging as well and I think that's fair. Don't give people an excuse to go out and buy Roku or Apple TV period. Agreed about the pound stupid!
The disc check is an ok idea but that doesn't help you play digital purchased games off-line. There should be a way to check out your console and go off-line with it. Steam has off-line mode, so should Xbox One.
Used game thing is a fuster cluck MS should take control of it and make it fair and simply up front (I.E. 1st trade $10.00 2nd $5.00 or whatever) or abandon it all together. "You want to trade-in your games, buy an Xbox 360!" ;-) BTW.. the M$ guy that said that, if he really said it to a military man, (which I don't think it was) he should be fired.
I think Microsoft is not considering all of their user base. So much of the focus here is hard-core gamers who, assuming they are old enough to have a job, are more likely than most to tolerate these changes - even if they are complaining loudly. But a huge part of the user base for console games is teenagers who are largely at the whim of their parents.
They don't get a say in whether or not they have internet access and, believe it or not, not everyone has it even in the US.
My nephews are a great example. My brother was recently down on his luck and had to give up internet access for a while. During that time, my nephews were still able to play the Xbox 360 games that I bought them. They couldn't play online, but they could play. With the Xbox one, they lose that ability.
Also I sometimes lend them games to see if they like them. If they do, I may buy them a copy of their own. Or their friends might loan them a game for a while. Again, with the Xbox one, they could only play them if I let them sign in with my account - even if they have the disk.
With the current rules, there's no way I would buy an Xbox one for them - and I'm a big Microsoft fan. I WANT them to succeed. I just think they're doing too much too soon. Even if gaming is headed in this direction, its not there yet and their policies should allow more flexibility in the short term.
Whenever you have to justify your price like this, it clearly indicates that the potential customer doesn't see the value in the price asked. Stating "It delivers a lot of value" isn't going to increase the perceived value. Stating such doesn't create value, value creates value. Sufficient value is there for a much smaller number of potential customers than MS wants and needs and the only way they are going to get the sales they want is to do these things mentioned which will increase the true value. As we say in sales, "When the value exceeds the cost, the sale is made."
Paul I think you hit the nail on the head. Microsoft shouldn't let publishers charge anything for used games because there is NO other service that the publisher gets money for used titles. Selling a music CD or DVD movie the publishers do not make money, same with cars, if I buy a used Audi, Audi does not make money of my buy. This is just greed and BS.
I think this is a temporary thing though. I think they did this as a carrot to get publishers to make Microsoft only games and they have some really nice ones (Titanfall being one).
I would like to see no fee for Xbox live, but with everything that Xbox live does it is worth a cost unless they can find another way to make up the money.
The idea of downloadable (or streaming) used games sounds great, if the prices are right. Look at Onlive, the price structure sucked and it killed the service. The same with Xbox movies, you can go to redbox and get a movie cheaper than if you stream it from the Xbox store. It seems to me like it should be the other way around. If they make renting games more expensive than renting from Blockbuster (which I know there are very few around) or getting a Gamefly account, then the service will be a bust.
I personally think people who buy the Xbox One without the Kinect are going to be missing out on a lot. I liked what I saw the Kinect can do with the Xbox One. What do people think Microsoft is going to do watch them play Halo in their underwear doing something else? Come on, as long as your not pirating anything Microsoft could care less what you do. If this were apple then I'd worry.
Always on, yes for some people (especially parents) this could be a problem. I know friends friends with children that take their Xbox's to their grand parents and they don't have internet so kids with the Xbox One will be upset if this happens. Also not all hotels have good or free internet access, and it could be pricey ($18-24 a day for wifi). It should be when it is connected to the internet it does its thing and when its not maybe you can have an app for your phone or tablet that will check in and send the info to Microsoft. If there are updates then when you get to an internet connection it will do them.
I think they are going to have to do something about the price. $499 isn't bad for what you get but people won't see that they'll see the PS4 is $100 cheaper people on the fence between the two (or that have both a 360 and a PS3) will get the PS4. The people who love the games on the Xbox One will get one no matter what I think. You never hear people talking about Gears of War or Uncharted (Even though both are great games) like you hear about Halo, and Gears of War (and I think Titanfall will be there too).
Actually, if you take a good look at the automobile retailing business, all of the car makers are very actively involved in the used car market. You cannot turn on the radio for more than an hour where I live without hearing an ad extolling the virtues of buying a used Mercedes from the dealer who has passed the vehicle through a certification checklist and offers a warranty that a private seller or hole in the wall used car dealer cannot match.
The used car business is something the car makers are very actively involved in and draw revenue from.
As for this 'Grandma doesn't have internet, what will the kids do?' nonsense, is that really why you take your kids to visit their grandparents? So they can play video games while ignoring the people they're visiting?
Also, there are plenty of mobile wireless options for getting a connection in locations that don't have their own. Plenty of smartphone accounts offer tethering at an additional cost and it can be done by the month to satisfy a temporary need.
If you're so far out in the wilderness that a cellular connection isn't an option, why is playing video games even on your list of things to do?
MSFT needs to hire a PR team.
Larry Hryb interview...nothing is going to change before launch.
I discovered another possible problem for the XboxOne, its region lock: http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/xbox-one-region-lock-may-be-a-problem-if-yo...
Most people in europe can live with the "standard" region lock, which means that you can import games from UK or other european countries, but not from US or Japan. But the current rumor is that you can't even active the xbox if you are not in the correct country.
If these, again draconian, region lock applies for games they might loose the german market. As some of you might know, german law is much more strict against violence, too violent games can not be sold to minors, and there is not advertising allowed which basically means the are not sold anywhere. And the germans prefer to buy localized/translated versions. In the last years the publishers found a method to deal with it. The create a version for germany, and an "austrian" version, which is not censored, but translated. Austria is a small marked which has different laws then germany, and some austrian internet shops make good money buy exporting the austrian game versions go germany. In Germany a lot of people are happy with the system because the can just import the version of the game that they prefer, which is legal.
I would suggest that microsoft does not appear in germany as the "locked down" console while Sony still offers the possibility to continue as usual. Imagine: "Censored GTA5 on XboxOne vs. Real GTA5 on PS4". Hope microsoft has a better solution then saying: "We have a product that is for people who don't like censorship, its the XBox360" ;)
How can Xbox messed this up so bad? Here are the simple things they need to do to fix the problem.
1. Set price at $399. Keep Kinect as is. No fragmentation.
2. Adopt Sony policy for DRM and used games
3. No 24 hour or any periodic console checkin. Make it 30 days if you really have to adopt Steam model.
4. Ensure everyone that Kinect can be turned off and there is no wierd privacy crap going on.
5. Stop the main Xbox boss from coming off as such as big douche. Speak to people, don't say "over delivering on value". Talk like a human, to humans.
6. That will match PS4 offerings, now take one more surprise thing (even lower price, xbox gold or something) to actually create a competitive advantage, not just to be on par.
Oh, i forgot one more thing, allow independent developers to publish directly (with proper reviews in place like the app store does)
The big PR fail for Microsoft is they took what should have been approached as a service pitch and instead made a hardware pitch. All of the aspects that really look to the future and evolve the gaming world in the X1 are more in the way of services than hardware. The box is just how you access the service at this stage. In five years the average PC will be able to run any X1 game in terms of hardware capability. All that would be needed is a software layer and a Kinect to complete the package. The $500 console could easily become a subscription service down the road. The high end console will likely have a successor by then but Windows 10 users on x86 machines should be able to play any of the X1 games if they subscribe.
The core is really XBL and how you access it. Having complete account portability and extensive sharing that goes beyond anything I could with a game on disc is really a service, not a hardware function.
Microsoft needs to figure out what they're selling and get the pitch right.
One thing that no one seems to be talking about is that both the PS4 and XBoxOne seem a bit underwhelming in the game technolgoy department; I was sorta thinking we would get photo-realistic rendering and natrual language/body movement in this generation, but it looks like to me that the graphics seem just a bit better.
I wonder if the real competition to both consoles will be the redesigned 360, which should be hundreds less and have a huge and growing game catalog.
Fire Mattrick ! DONE !
I live in what you would call the middle of nowhere. I have very slow internet. What is the minimum speed I need for the new Xbox one to run correctly.
I don't understand really. I bought an XBox One for my kids this past Christmas and we get Hulu, Netflix, Microsoft's Video, Amazon Prime, can purchase games electronically and we've been playing Destiny, Minecraft, all without an Xbox Live Gold subscription. Ours did not require a Kinect purchase, nor did it come with one. Blu-Ray is great as well. However, it was purchased (new) through Amazon as a bundle with Assassins Creed. My boys are a little disappointed because they cant make game recordings unless they have an Xbox Live Gold subscription but otherwise we are using it just fine.
The only hassle we had at the beginning was that it needed an update but wouldn't connect to the internet to do so. it was a known issue but there was a workaround to be able to load the update via USB thumb drive.
We currently love the XBox One but should anything happen to it I wont get another one. We will shoot for the PlayStation instead. Seems to be a lot less hassle and smaller console.
I don't have enough devices to be that rooted into the Microsoft eco-system anyways.
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